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    Default Recent FIBA announcements (world cup, three point line, Olympics)

    Probably could go in the Olympic section but there was a lot of varied content. In an interview about the Under 23 limit, secretary general of FIBA let some other things slip.

    • FIBA hopes to move the new World Cup of Basketball, formerly known as the World Championships, out of the same four-year cycle that mirrors soccer's World Cup. So after the inaugural World Cup of basketball in Spain 2014, Baumann says he hopes that the next edition of the tournament takes place in 2019 as opposed to 2018 and serves as the main qualifier for the 2020 Olympics.

    • Baumann says FIBA will push for the 2016 Olympic field to be expanded from 12 teams to 16 along with a shortening of the overall tournament length from 18-19 days to 14-15.

    • Although he said he's unsure whether it will happen in time for the 2016 Games in Brazil, Baumann admits that "we have come to a conclusion that (FIBA's shorter 3-point line) will move back at some point to the NBA distance."

    http://espn.go.com/olympics/summer/2...-2016-olympics
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    1. Good choice to move the World Championships/World Cup away from the same year as the football World Cup. If the under-23 rule is enacted, it'll become the premiere international basketball event and deserves it's own window to showcase the game. Even if the under-23 rule is not enacted, there won't be as much saturation as there has been with the World Championships coming right on the heels of the World Cup.

    2. Have a feeling that this is a precursor to moving to under-23. To both increase the field and shorten the playing time would indicate more games in fewer days. If that doesn't upset Cuban and Stern, nothing will. The players are taxed enough as it is.

    3. Had to come sooner or later as FIBA continues to assimilate to American/NBA rules. Right now it's a laughing matter; Carmelo Anthony has turned into one of the best 3 point shooters in the world simply because of how easy it is right now.

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    WTF??? Don't mess with the FIBA WC cycle. Leave the 3pt alone as well!

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    if there will be an under 23 rule...university games will maybe be without a basketball tournament

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldog3312 View Post
    2. Have a feeling that this is a precursor to moving to under-23. To both increase the field and shorten the playing time would indicate more games in fewer days. If that doesn't upset Cuban and Stern, nothing will. The players are taxed enough as it is.
    Increasing the field to 16 would mean fewer games.

    Teams would play between 3 games if they don't progress past the 1st round, to a maximum of 6 games if they go all the way.

    It's currently between 5 and 8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raze Lupin View Post
    WTF??? Don't mess with the FIBA WC cycle. Leave the 3pt alone as well!
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    I would really hate an under 23 rule, Olympic basketball really has a great tradition and should be treated right, not transformed into secondary soccer... Basketball needs and deserves more attention and having the best players competing at the Olympics is just fantastic for the sport.
    On the other hand, for the same reasons, maybe it would be a good idea to stage the Basketball World Cup in a different year then the Soccer one: much more visibility.
    Maybe it would also be time for the rules of the game to become universally uniform and end this NBA/FIBA difference. Soccer and other major sports have universally approved rules, why not basketball? And maybe the NBA rules would be better for the game, don't you think they favour attack over defence?
    Just IMHO of course.
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    Idiots > very idiots > extremely idiots > unconceivably idiots > FIBA rulers

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    The proposed qualifying sounds like a train wreck. Having two divisions is terrible as well.

    Not sure why people seem to be bothered about expanding the WC to 32 teams though. It's a more convenient number for a tournament than 24, and if they follow the FIFA World Cup format it will actually make for a shorter tournament.
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    I read through that twice, and I have honestly no idea how that's supposed to work. Especially with the majority of windows taking place during seasons. How the divisions work or who would be in them is another mystery.

    I don't mind Oceania joining Asia (that was a long time coming), or continental events being once every four years, but the rest is nonsensical at best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dtown View Post
    I read through that twice, and I have honestly no idea how that's supposed to work. Especially with the majority of windows taking place during seasons. How the divisions work or who would be in them is another mystery.

    I don't mind Oceania joining Asia (that was a long time coming), or continental events being once every four years, but the rest is nonsensical at best.
    ... Also that it favors NBA owners (Cuban particularly)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dtown View Post
    I read through that twice, and I have honestly no idea how that's supposed to work. Especially with the majority of windows taking place during seasons. How the divisions work or who would be in them is another mystery.
    Yeah, there don't seem to be any details at all. I guess they're hoping to negotiate that other key players. There was an article about this in one of the Puerto Rican papers with a lot of quotes from the head of FIBA-Americas and he pretty much said the teams will have trouble getting NBA and ULEB players but they can use prospects for the qualifying rounds and then bring in their stars for the final tournaments. Of course that wouldn't exactly build interest. Also the head of the Puerto Rican fed asking who is going to want to see us play the Cayman Islands?
    http://www.primerahora.com/revolucio...ba-722703.html
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    The problem is FIBA seemed to try and copy the way FIFA handles their World Cup qualifying while forgetting they have NONE of the power that FIFA possesses. Unless FIBA has some full cooperation from leagues around the world, this will be a failure.

    Though in FIBA's defense I don't think Puerto Rico would play the Cayman Islands, if I'm interpreting what FIBA stated correctly then every region would have a division A and B. Meaning the Top level teams would compete in one competition, and lower level teams would compete in another.
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    I can get evrthing, but qualys trough season? wtf
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    Quote Originally Posted by pohani komarac View Post
    I can get evrthing, but qualys trough season? wtf
    There was already such case some 10 years back. I remember when LT NT failed at 2001 Eurobasket, we had to play qualies for 2003, which were held during the season. Well, I would really like this idea as I like it in football, but it seems FIBA with copyin' it from FIFA, just forgot that in football there's no NBA...


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    Article with some quotes from Baumann:
    http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/8...cup-qualifiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindozas View Post
    There was already such case some 10 years back. I remember when LT NT failed at 2001 Eurobasket, we had to play qualies for 2003, which were held during the season. Well, I would really like this idea as I like it in football, but it seems FIBA with copyin' it from FIFA, just forgot that in football there's no NBA...
    How the hell they will get NBA players?, and I doubt Uleb will also alow their leagues to stop.. Terible
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    Quote Originally Posted by JGX View Post
    Article with some quotes from Baumann:
    http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/8...cup-qualifiers
    Sounds like they're acknowledging that the other windows will be NBA free. Makes me wonder how big of a roster are teams going to be allowed? They're pretty much admitting only the June and September windows are appealing. So will they have room for say two entirely different teloams?

    BTW I'm still lost as to who the US would send out to the windows in November and February, NBA's certainly out, so is College players, NBDL maybe? For a real laugh though I vote the Harlem Globetrotters.
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    I forgot to post this last week.

    FIBA seeking more teams in the Rio Olympics

    FIBA wants four more for the men's basketball. While the 3-on-3 basketball is still up in the air.
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