SBP Long-Term National Pool (Vol. XX)

[silverwing]

Anybody watching/watched this? (If yes, at least you know what i am getting at )

I'm watching that series, Did anyone see him around ? Legit Observer indeed. lol

[Thegloryball]

why not? by the the time the final 12 is announced, thoss will be really good at observing.

mondays observing practices and a specialized observing training in lithuania will help a lot.

question is can thoss matchup against the observers of other asian teams?

i think he can't. how about we naturalized an observer, thoss is to soft. scalabrine will do ,an nba tested observer.

[analyzed]

Jawo’s over eagerness to nit-pick and criticize everything I say is actually really great! It’s hilarious to watch a a person give me so much attention and make a fool out of himself in the process by speaking his mind without me lifting a finger (this is just too easy) . It’s gotten so bad that people even have to interpret in his behalf perhaps what he really means. (e.g. he din’t really mean quality player worthy of NT consideration but perhaps he meant an accomplished PBA career, talk about grasping for straws ) . I never thought I would find someone who could help my posting this way – in all seriousness it really helps highlight my points , although I know that’s not the intent - but thanks anyway for the help and your support Jawo

[nardy]

actually afaik even before phoenix intended to join the pba, smb has already planned to switch name as the sanmiguel corp is planning to position themselves in SouthEast Asia. they are trying to promote their flagship product aggressively in the southeast asia region. i thought they are going to use magnolia again. probably when phoenix shows intent to join, they used the name petron. lols.

a question though. what happened if phoenix has already joined the pba? would smb be allowed to switch its name to petron?

even if SMB did not change its name to Petron, with the San Miguel Group already owning Petron, they would not allow a competitor to use the PBA to promote its products. Same way as Talk N Text would not allow Globe to be given so much exposure in the PBA.

[Jay P. Mercado]

Assuming that Phoenix was 'lucky' enough to join the PBA, then San Miguel won't be able to use the Petron brand anymore because of the corporate lockout agreement. The rights of using a fuel brand will now be owned by Phoenix Petroleum, ergo, San Miguel will be forced to use other brands instead.

I can't exactly recall the details of the arrangement between RFM and Purefoods back in the early 90's but there was a year when both Swift Hotdogs and Purefoods Hotdogs were used - this was in 1992. Despite being the elder franchise, Purefoods had no choice but to use the Coney Island brand in 1993 and 1994 as Swift used the Mighty Meaty Hotdog tag during those seasons. They returned to the old Purefoods brand when Swift used Sunkist in 1995 and 1996. It may have been part of a gentlemen's agreement between Messrs. Zobel de Ayala and Concepcion to maximize brand exposure for their flagship products. But from thereon, I don't recall Swift being used anymore - instead utilizing the brand Pop Cola from 1997 to 2002 except 2000 where they re-used Sunkist.

In the maiden season of 1975 up to 1977 though, two competing soda brands were in the PBA - the 7/UP Uncolas and Royal Tru Orange. It was a move that didn't shock many as Royal Tru Orange, owned by the San Miguel conglomerate, used the San Miguel Braves tag in the MICAA. They wanted to make sure that their brand would get exposure and not be upstaged by 7/UP. San Miguel also distributed Coca-Cola back then, but they opted for RTO because it's the local brand that they produced and would need not pay any royalties.

When Alaska joined the PBA, two competing brands also figured in the PBA in 1987. Alaska shifted its brand from Alaska to Hills Bros Coffee in 1987 to tangle with Great Taste Coffee of the Gokongwei group.

In 1988, Ginebra was able to use the brand Anejo Rum 65 when Tanduay Rhum disbanded and sold their franchise to Purefoods. They were able to use Anejo for 3 seasons until they reverted to Ginebra in 1991.

[Tobslerone]

@coachot: Good news! @Sonny_Thoss has been allowed to attend Gilas practice, but he can't come tonyt as he has to attend to a fam emgcy in Cebu

[jawo]

Jawo’s over eagerness to nit-pick and criticize everything I say is actually really great! It’s hilarious to watch a a person give me so much attention and make a fool out of himself in the process by speaking his mind without me lifting a finger (this is just too easy) . It’s gotten so bad that people even have to interpret in his behalf perhaps what he really means. (e.g. he din’t really mean quality player worthy of NT consideration but perhaps he meant an accomplished PBA career, talk about grasping for straws ) . I never thought I would find someone who could help my posting this way – in all seriousness it really helps highlight my points , although I know that’s not the intent - but thanks anyway for the help and your support Jawo

Wow! grasping for straws? Who are you? You just happened to live in Australia you readily think you are enough better than someone else in expressing ones' self? I lived in Australia for 6 years mate and did not do simple things there, and I tell you basketball in Australia is so poor compared to the Philippines, because unlike in the Philippines it is not a way of life. This is probably the reason you got less substance in airing your views, very child-like yet so confident and arrogant.

This is the reason I could not help countering your views, please man, respect people here. They know basketball better than you do and I am very sure about it because I could comprehend from where you are coming. We respect people views, but please express it by simply airing you views and do not include arrogance...please.

No one ever won over you in discussing things about the Philippine national team and or Philippine basketball in general, even the knowledgeable Jay Mercado was a victim of your self-proclaimed "expert opinion".

Please mate, take heed and go back to your basics before its too late. You love basketball? then learn more!

By the way, correction...people interpret my views for you not because in my behalf but in your behalf, because you could not reach what I am trying to say. You cannot reach the comprehension because you are too arrogant to accept facts coming from past history.

Nagsimula ka lang manood ng Philippine national team in this era only, ako matagal na since the late 70's. Kaya natatawa akong nabubuwisit sa yabang mo!