He was a good player in Europe from what I can remember, he had no difficulties of that sort, he just hadn't matured yet, which he did in the NBA.Originally Posted by a.i.
From what I know Türkcan was the main man behind the troubles in the NT, but perhaps Okur is not exempt of blame.
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I agree with rikh, I think he is a far cry from Mirsad and Hedo in terms of "chemistry/lockerroom_atmosphere-spoiler". If I am not mistaken he was left out the NT purely on grounds of his injury recovery... or am I wrong?
The Euroleague Organization and Mr Bertomeu are like the Bulgarian Government: corrupt, partially stupid, and a huge underestimator of people's intelligence.
Okur was successful in European competitions, and he had a good history with NT before Eurobasket2005. But in that tournament, he played terribly and seemed like he was avoiding to move a finger during the games, driving all of us and apparently Mirsad crazy! Okur later said it was because of the conflict with his NBA training schedule and time of tournament, thus he was not physically ready in those days.
Then he refused to join NT for this summer's WBC on grounds of his injury, and you may guess the people's reactions. Almost no one believed him. The general opinion was "Ok, we've had enough with those "stars", let's dump them, we need true fighters". And this was what Tanjevic did.
So the problem with Okur is not his personal difficulties, but with his motivation in playing for the NT. He has much more credit than Türkoğlu and Tunçeri in public eye because of his former NT performance and his good personal impression. Thus, if he comes to play with his heart, all the bad memories will be forgotten, imho.
We certainly need Okur's and Turkoğlu's capabilities, and it's really exciting to imagine a full national team with last summer's spirit.
(you see, I still keep my avatar, that's the spirit)
Hello everybody, this is my first message here: My opinion is that Memo and Hedo have to show us that they really want to play for this team and the country. If there is missing motivation I would prefer to play without them. The most important thing is to keep our Team spirit alive. If Memo and Hedo are not motivated to join this team its ok. Tanjevic should really check this before he chooses the 12 Big man. If they show any behaviour which is bad for team spirit he should kick them out.
By saying that Okur can show his quality for NT, I meant exactly the same thing as you "TB-fan". (As "sariss" said, he was good in European tournement and we can't ignore this. Now, he played very good in NBA and we should be proud of him, that's my opinion.) We saw and read much about the NT events this summer and I think the discussion must be finished. Tanjeviç and our 12 Dev Adam have talked about this topic after their return to Turkey and evertbody is very optimistic and in a good mood. When you read about Ermal's blog in his site about NT adventure, you can see that he is so friendly about Hedo and Memo, and they must be like that because no matter what people did in the past, there will be always some things for them to recover. Their reasons not to come to NT is something we should not focus on anymore. If Tanjeviç and technical team want them play for the team, they can play. All in all, we have wonderful young players fighting for NT and make us proud, that's the thing we have to celebrate
Okur does it again, he ties the game to force overtime. Who's been more clutch than Memo during the 2006-07 season?
Utah 104, New York 102, OT
February 10, 2007
SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- Mehmet Okur forced overtime on a layup with 12 seconds left in regulation, and Derek Fisher scored with 3 seconds left in the extra period to give Utah a 104-102 win over New York on Saturday night.
Okur scored 29 points and Fisher finished with 14, including the winner on a pass from Deron Williams, who had 10 assists for Utah. The Jazz ended a five-game losing streak against the Knicks.
New York had a final chance, but Jamal Crawford's shot at the buzzer was off. The Jazz trailed by 10 late in the fourth quarter before rallying to win their fourth in a row.
Okur has been named as an injury replacement in the All-Star game, along with Seattle's Ray Allen - replacing Nash and Iverson, both out with injuries.
About time for Okur, he deserves it.
Die Liebe wird eine Krankheit, wenn man sie als eine Heilung sieht
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Man you're quick.
Stuart
Memo keeps steady: 32 pts + 9 rebs (+ 3 assists) in the win against the Bobcats.
Die Liebe wird eine Krankheit, wenn man sie als eine Heilung sieht
Artificial Nature
I love it how American commentators pronounce his name.
Mehhh--met Okkkk-uuuur, they always tend to stop after Ok- and then bring back the ur.
Mehmet Okur Beats Jazz 3-Pointer Record
Link to the full article.
On March 13, 2007, Utah Jazz All-Star center Mehmet Okur passed Bryon Russell as the most prolific single season 3-point shooter in franchise history. The 6-11, 263-pound native of Turkey has connected for 109 treys, surpassing Bryon Russell's 108 3-point performance during the 1996-97 season.
Now in his fifth NBA season and third with the Jazz, Okur has appeared in 61 Jazz games (all starts) and is averaging a career-high 18.4 points, along with 7.3 rebounds and 2.0 assists. Okur ranks second on the Jazz in both scoring and rebounding and has posted 16 double-doubles on the season.
Okur has been one of the most clutch players in the NBA this season, hitting 30 game-tying or leading field goals in the fourth quarter or overtime, including four-game winning shots in the final 40 seconds of games. His 109 made 3-pointers are the most in the NBA for a player 6-11 or taller this season, and rank 10th in NBA history. Okur was selected to his first All-Star Game in 2007.
That's just impressive, and think he's a centre...
Die Liebe wird eine Krankheit, wenn man sie als eine Heilung sieht
Artificial Nature
And it's also interesting; witnessing a player's evolution.
Last year he was the go-to-guy of Jazz, leading the team in points, rebs, double-doubles, etc. However, this year Boozer and Williams came very strong and took the control in offense. Okur lost most of his privilages (so did Kirilenko). But he's turned into a shooting guard in a center's body, which has both given Jazz a unique, very-diffficult-to-defend outside threat, and opened-up the paint for Boozer & Millsap.
Despite losing his leading role in the team, Okur managed to increase his scoring averages to a career best and selected for all-star game; survival of the fittest.
Amazing. I never would have thought that Bryon Russell had the record with John Stockton and Jeff Hornacek on the same team. And I knew Memo was capable of hitting threes, but not at a record-setting pace. Congrats.
Stuart
wow no comments on Memo's awesome playoffs???
First round against Houston he held his own against Yao Ming. That kinda exhausted him to the point that his offense wasn't up to par. But I have never seen him play this good of defefense before. He had like 2 games where he had 4 blocks and 4 steals. Towards the end of that serie he got his shot back and made some huge baskets in game 6 and game 7 making Utah advance to the next round.
And now in the second round he has a field day against the "vertically challanged" people of GS. He is posting up, shooting jumpers, shooting 3's and is pounding the boards for rebounds.
First game he had 21 pts and 11 reb.
Second game he had 23 pts and 18 reb.
Deron Williams is such a good player, man if people didn't know him before this series they sure will after.
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Time to revive this thread.
Okur converted a career-high 6 3-pointers, scoring 27 pts + 11 rebs + 3 steals, thus leading the team to a 132-105 win over the Nuggets.
Die Liebe wird eine Krankheit, wenn man sie als eine Heilung sieht
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as long as we have Tanjevic, the only thing we can do is being happy with this NBA performances of Memo and Hedo. This 79 generation is also coming to an end. It's sad.A team like germany has mor success. Wit players like hamann and arigbabu ...
Career-high 43 points, adding 9 rebounds, 3 assists and 1 steal as the Jazz beat the Pacers. Okur is being the leader of the team so far in the season.
Die Liebe wird eine Krankheit, wenn man sie als eine Heilung sieht
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It seems that Okur is trying make Utah's decision on trade harder. It is obvious that Utah can't manage to fund those high salaries and Okur's & Boozer's contrats' last 2 years ( with including this year ). So the court is thinking on who to send or how to manage to fund it. Boozer's getting injuried so often and Okur's recently performance turns finger at Boozer , on the other hand Okur is not a guy who can drag along the team on the top and he is not that good at defence as he is in offence. We will see it soon anyway.
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