View Poll Results: Who's the best NBA Euro rookie so far?

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  • Andrea Bargnani (ITA)

    6 24.00%
  • Andreas Glyniadakis (GRE)

    0 0%
  • Damir Markota (CRO)

    0 0%
  • Ersan İlyasova (TUR)

    2 8.00%
  • Jorge Garbajosa (ESP)

    11 44.00%
  • Sergio Rodríguez (ESP)

    0 0%
  • Thabo Sefolosha (CHE)

    2 8.00%
  • Vassilis Spanoulis (GRE)

    3 12.00%
  • Yakhouba Diawara (FRA)

    1 4.00%
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    I voted for Diawara. Already, for the moment, and excluding Garba because I think he is too old to be a real rookie, I think the two bests are him and Spanoulis. Selofosha made some good games too, like Bargnani, but I think no one is really consistent for the moment. I think Bargnani will improve for his time of play will grow, whereas the other will have to fight all season long to play. That will make the difference, and Bargnani will be the best European rookie this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CreEkShooT
    typical turkish answer....

    is it wrong though? How many players in Europe born in 1987 is better than Ersan? He has to improve though, he is still quite raw. But he has the material to be a star player.

    if I'm wrong, say it

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    Quote Originally Posted by turkishpower
    born in 1987





    Ok, serisouly now, Ersan has a massive potential. I am keeping an eye on him and I would expect great things from him in the near future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turkishpower
    is it wrong though? How many players in Europe born in 1987 is better than Ersan? He has to improve though, he is still quite raw. But he has the material to be a star player.

    if I'm wrong, say it

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    Ersan was born in 1984.
    Last edited by elaj; 12-14-2006 at 01:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elaj
    Ersan is born in 1984.

    if you don't know something for sure, don't comment about it. There used to be rumors about Ersan being born in 1984 before, but nobody could prove it. So, don't bring the claims here and try to show as true.
    Ilyasova was born in 1987 and is one of the top 3 best 1987 born players in Europe. Nobody can reject that

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    Quote Originally Posted by turkishpower
    if you don't know something for sure, don't comment about it. There used to be rumors about Ersan being born in 1984 before, but nobody could prove it. So, don't bring the claims here and try to show as true.
    Ilyasova was born in 1987 and is one of the top 3 best 1987 born players in Europe. Nobody can reject that
    We don't know for sure that he was born in 1987 either. That is the whole point. Neither of us can prove it in fact. IMO, where there's smoke there's a fire. It doesn't matter anyway, the kid (or dude) has a bright future in front of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Carlos Nadal
    We don't know for sure that he was born in 1987 either. That is the whole point. Neither of us can prove it in fact. IMO, where there's smoke there's a fire. It doesn't matter anyway, the kid (or dude) has a bright future in front of him.

    I don't think so man. He was born in 1987. We don't have to prove it. But if someone is claiming that he is actually 1984 born, then he has to prove that. He can not just throw some clay at the guy and run away. He probably saw it in some non-official sites and he is bringing that here. I'm not supposed to prove it, cause he is right now 19 years old. If you don't agree with me, then justify your theory.

    BTW, 3 age matters a lot. He wouldn't have a bright future if he were to be born in 1984. He would be 22 years old right now. That's not too young... And he hasn't proven himself in senior competitions a lot...


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    Man, you can believe what you want, and it's fair enough. It is a common secret that Ulker tried to hide his real age, taking advantage of his lost papers from back in Uzbekistan. And I am using turkish sources here. To me it doesn't matter. Now it's too late to prove anything. But if one day we see his athletic abilities deteriorating when he is still..."29" then we may have an indication of his real age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turkishpower
    is it wrong though? How many players in Europe born in 1987 is better than Ersan? He has to improve though, he is still quite raw. But he has the material to be a star player.

    if I'm wrong, say it
    you don't like me?
    well there is one and jis name is big sofo....or sofoklis sxortsianitis who is a having one of his worst years now with gershin in oly
    xaxa lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by turkishpower
    if you don't know something for sure, don't comment about it. There used to be rumors about Ersan being born in 1984 before, but nobody could prove it. So, don't bring the claims here and try to show as true.
    Ilyasova was born in 1987 and is one of the top 3 best 1987 born players in Europe. Nobody can reject that
    I'm sure enough to comment these things.His real age will come out when he'll be around 30 years old, I'm sure...

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    Garbajosa and Bargnani play good so far. Bargnani is getting better from game to game. Jose is struggeling with his 3 pointers but i think with some more games the shoots will fall down for him from 3 pointrange. Sergio Rodriguez had a chance for 2 or 3 games and he played well, but now he is sitting on the bench again. If i am right then he had 12 assits in one game. He deserv to play more, but Portland is loaded with PG´s and SG´s. But his time will come. Ilyasova had his chance but i wasn´t impressed from that what he showed. Rebounding was OK, all other things not. Spanoulis is getting his minutes and has the chance to show what he can do, but he is making to much Turnovers and if he doesn´t develop into a better player then he will be at the end of the bench when Snyder is back. Markota. What to say? He will not play a lot this season. After Garbajosa and Bargnani the beste Rookie from Europe is Diawarra. He plays good and that´s a positive suprise for me.

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    Sergio Rodriguez get some playing time against the Clippers and dished out 7 Assits in 12 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buducnost PG
    Sergio Rodriguez get some playing time against the Clippers and dished out 7 Assits in 12 minutes.
    Yes, "CHACHO" is the next Nash.
    SCARIOLO GO HOME!!!

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