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    that's great man, i'm waiting for the results of the said games... i wonder how will an NBA team perform against foreign NT...
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    China's preparation is amazing. They will always have the better methods of practice than other Asian teams. But that means they cannot lose! Or it makes them look bad haha
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    China played with Dallas Mavericks summer league teams in both 2004 (under Del Harris) and 2001 (under Wang Fei, who had studied with the Mavs for 1 season and when Wang Zhizhi was still a Mav).

    The results:
    Jul 4, 2004 China 62-93 Dallas (Chen Ke 16, Yao Ming DNP)
    Jul 3, 2004 China 85-97 Dallas (Zhu Fangyu 16, Mengke Bateer 13p 11r, Yao Ming DNP; Devin Harris 21, Justin Brown 20p 10r, Josh Howard 17)
    Jul 2, 2004 China 85-80 Dallas (Yao Ming 22p 11r, Du Feng 12; Devin Harris 15, Josh Howard 12, Rod Gregoire 12)

    BTW, both Justin Brown and Rod Gregoire played in China. The Mavs summer league team also included Pavel Podkolzine and Didier Ilunga Mbenga.

    Jul 6, 2001 China 67-69 Dallas (Hu Weidong 14, Yao Ming 14)
    Jul 3, 2001 China 86-74 Dallas (Wang Zhizhi 31)
    Jul 2, 2001 China 66-71 Dallas (Mengke Bateer 12, Wang Zhizhi 12, Yao Ming 12)

    I don't know who played for the Mavs back then.

    Back then in 1996 before the Atlanta Olympics, the Chinese NT stopped at the Long Beach (Los Angeles) NBA Summer League but I couldn't find any result. I know they did not do very well. (China NT again played in that summer league in 1998 but only against agent teams due to the NBA lockout.. although some agent teams had NBA stars.)

    China NT will again play with Dallas Mavericks summer league in Dallas before they head to Las Vegas. They have also scheduled a game with USA Under-19 NT there.

    Yao Ming is not likely to play, but Yi Jianlian and Sun Yue will... for China NT and not for their respective NBA squads (if they get drafted by teams playing in L.V.)
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    not to sound negative here, but the first few games were imho blowouts then it becomes close, im wondering now if dallas kind of just let the china nt play catchup to restore some pride then.

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    http://www.usabasketball.com/news.ph...ls_globalgames

    Jul 1 China NT vs USA Under-19 Team

    USA U-19
    17 Lavoy Allen F 6-9 225 2/04/89
    29 Darrell Arthur F 6-9 230 3/25/88
    27 Michael Beasley F 6-8 230 1/09/89
    18 Patrick Beverly G 6-1 172 7/12/88
    7 Matt Bouldin G 6-5 214 1/17/88
    30 Dwayne Collins C 6-8 232 4/13/88
    6 Stephen Curry G 6-1 180 3/14/88
    19 Tyreke Evans G 6-5 205 9/18/89
    20 Jonny Flynn G 6-1 172 2/06/89
    22 Donte' Greene F 6-8 220 2/21/88
    26 Damian Hollis F 6-8 200 8/19/88
    33 DeAndre Jordan F 6-10 215 7/21/88
    23 David Lighty F 6-5 220 5/27/88
    31 Raymar Morgan F 6-7 220 8/08/88
    4 Tajuan Porter G 5-6 160 3/09/88
    24 Corey Stokes F 6-6 210 4/24/88
    32 Deon Thompson C 6-8 245 9/16/88
    25 Brad Wanamaker G 6-2 200 7/25/89

    Yao Ming will NOT play, and Yi Jianlian is highly questionable, coming off draft night in NYC. Sun Yue is possible but probably will not have time to practice with team after a long-time absence during which his club feuded with NT head coach Jonas Kazlauskas over a couple comments.

    Team USA U-19 is pretty good but China has a good shot of beating them. They really don't have much inside presence. I expect Wang Zhizhi to have a big game.
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    Just a question, why does china has been able to play against some teams from the NBA these past years, while (excluding south korea and japan) many asian national basketball teams are not able to do so

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    Quote Originally Posted by onono1
    Just a question, why does china has been able to play against some teams from the NBA these past years, while (excluding south korea and japan) many asian national basketball teams are not able to do so
    China has always had 3+ NBA calibre players (see my avatar), how many do the other teams have
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    Just wondering, this Chinese NT in the NBA Summer League, is this the Team "A", or Team "B"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by onono1
    Just a question, why does china has been able to play against some teams from the NBA these past years, while (excluding south korea and japan) many asian national basketball teams are not able to do so

    sino already answered. would like to add my 2 cents. besides having 3+ nba caliber players, for quite sometime now china has been the team to beat in the Asia continent. Another thing is i speculate marketing/business; Chinese love the nba and basketball and are willing to spend the cash to buy merchandise, so why not continue the business friendship by letting them play US teams...give and take relationship. also to improve and constantly improve.

    now the pinoys/pinays(?) in here might be wondering well we have more passion and emotion to watching basketball and deep culture roots to the game we should deserve also to play such a team, but imho it's all about business and marketing. after the US, China is the next biggest market to basketball, and unfortunately its not the Philippines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinobball
    China played with Dallas Mavericks summer league teams in both 2004 (under Del Harris) and 2001 (under Wang Fei, who had studied with the Mavs for 1 season and when Wang Zhizhi was still a Mav).

    The results:
    Jul 4, 2004 China 62-93 Dallas (Chen Ke 16, Yao Ming DNP)
    Jul 3, 2004 China 85-97 Dallas (Zhu Fangyu 16, Mengke Bateer 13p 11r, Yao Ming DNP; Devin Harris 21, Justin Brown 20p 10r, Josh Howard 17)
    Jul 2, 2004 China 85-80 Dallas (Yao Ming 22p 11r, Du Feng 12; Devin Harris 15, Josh Howard 12, Rod Gregoire 12)

    BTW, both Justin Brown and Rod Gregoire played in China. The Mavs summer league team also included Pavel Podkolzine and Didier Ilunga Mbenga.

    Jul 6, 2001 China 67-69 Dallas (Hu Weidong 14, Yao Ming 14)
    Jul 3, 2001 China 86-74 Dallas (Wang Zhizhi 31)
    Jul 2, 2001 China 66-71 Dallas (Mengke Bateer 12, Wang Zhizhi 12, Yao Ming 12)

    I don't know who played for the Mavs back then.

    Back then in 1996 before the Atlanta Olympics, the Chinese NT stopped at the Long Beach (Los Angeles) NBA Summer League but I couldn't find any result. I know they did not do very well. (China NT again played in that summer league in 1998 but only against agent teams due to the NBA lockout.. although some agent teams had NBA stars.)

    China NT will again play with Dallas Mavericks summer league in Dallas before they head to Las Vegas. They have also scheduled a game with USA Under-19 NT there.

    Yao Ming is not likely to play, but Yi Jianlian and Sun Yue will... for China NT and not for their respective NBA squads (if they get drafted by teams playing in L.V.)
    Hu Weidong and Yao Ming omg thats like "Kobe and Shaq" for China back than!

    As for the 2001 dallas team? they had Steve Nash/Micheal Finley/Dirk Nowitzki

    no one thought Nash had any potential back than

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    Ohh i forgot to mention Shawn Bradley and our very own Wang Zhizhi

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    If there is not YAO and DUfeng in china A NT,i think these are so hard work .Zhang songtao to stay here because of this

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsong2006
    As for the 2001 dallas team? they had Steve Nash/Micheal Finley/Dirk Nowitzki

    no one thought Nash had any potential back than
    No, dude, All-Stars don't play for summer league teams unless right after being drafted.

    Although Dirk did face off with China NT (that year? - can't remember) with the Germany NT in Dallas.

    As for your comment on Nash, nobody will draft a player in the lottery with "no potential"
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    you're missing my point here! he was drafted 15th in 1996, what i meant to say is in 2001 no one ever expected Nash to be as good as he is now

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    Verygood training program for China... They played against mostly USA league teams but
    The NBA Summer league team playing w/o superstars/stars compose of reserve players CBA/USBL players and 1 NBA starter. The CBA(US) or USBL team can beat a NBA Summer League team... yah because most of players from US minor league...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhk111
    Just wondering, this Chinese NT in the NBA Summer League, is this the Team "A", or Team "B"?
    China NT Team A vs. NBA Clubs team B

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    China NT 75 - USA U19 Team 91

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kings
    China NT 75 - USA U19 Team 91

    you serious!? kings you have the stats or no to this game. also anyone have the torrent to this game?

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    yeah USA U19 91 beat China A 75... US's very mighty... Even with Yao and solid line-up the Chinese cannot win anymore against the US highschool All-Stars...

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