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    Default SEABA Women's Championships [Oct 17 Thailand]

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    Guys, what do you think? Who do you think will wind up first and last? For me, it's Indonesia who will be last because they barely competed in international competitions and lack talent in Basketball.

    Singapore cheated by naturalizing players from China so I'm sure they will pay for that by being crushed by our NT. The only reason why Malaysia and Thailand are strong competitors is because they have at least 2 six-footers. But what the heck? Our Men's NT beat Iran by just using Asi Taulava as the center throughout the game. We have one six footer (Cassy Tiesco) and she's good. I believe we have a chance to win this tournament and besides, we have skilled PG's whileas our opponents rely on their Centers too much.

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    Singapore aint cheating, they have a very little population and a very big national revenue..it's just right and practical to naturalize Chinese (if that is the real case) in their NT since Singaporeans has a big Chinese descendant population.
    It's ironic to see limited efforts from players with maximum salary.
    I wish they would apply "sabermetrics" in those financially challenged PBA teams to acquire players who are value for their money.

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    it's still cheating

    In a few more years, I'm sure their men's NT will now have naturalized players from China. They could be doing what Qatar had done with their men's basketball NT, naturalize African players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by interxavierxxx
    it's still cheating

    In a few more years, I'm sure their men's NT will now have naturalized players from China. They could be doing what Qatar had done with their men's basketball NT, naturalize African players.
    And your NT has more than half of the players born outside of Philippines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinobball
    And your NT has more than half of the players born outside of Philippines.
    I won't argue with that.

    However, ours have filipino blood whileas theirs (NTs who have more than 1 naturalized player) are simply imported. To tell you the truth, obtaining a filipino citizenship is very difficult and many of our fil-foreign players have been through a lot of hardships to be a citizen; examples are Asi Taulava and Eric Menk.

    You should know this Chinese friend because our business sectors are dominated by Chinese businessmen, who first must be a filipino citizen, who are now known as Tsinoys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinobball
    And your NT has more than half of the players born outside of Philippines.
    I do agree LOLZ..

    maybe Singapore will also field-in the so-called half-blooded Singaporean/Chinese, well, so far, SEA Games Basketball has been so boring without other SEA Teams improving, at least, they are trying to emulate what the Philippines has been doing all the time, importing talents overseas that have their nationalities lineage, well, I think its fair after all.
    It's ironic to see limited efforts from players with maximum salary.
    I wish they would apply "sabermetrics" in those financially challenged PBA teams to acquire players who are value for their money.

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    Permit me to clarify some matters with the naturalization issue. Naturalization basically, is defined as a proceeding whereby a foreigner is granted citizenship.

    A good example of a naturalized player is Japan's J. R. Sakuragi formerly known as J. R. Henderson, an afro-american with no Japanese blood nor lineage.

    Danny Siegle, is of Filipino and American blood but considered to be a local player and need not be naturalized. He is considered both by the U. S. and Philippine state as their legal citizen (dual citizenship).

    So if the Singaporeans decided to employ chinese mainlanders by virtue of the law on dual citizenships and of chinese blood/ancestry then these recruits can very well play anytime as local not naturalized.

    Thank you.

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    TEAM PILIPINAS WOMEN defeated Thais!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinobball
    And your NT has more than half of the players born outside of Philippines.
    but have Filipino blood... Still original

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    Quote Originally Posted by joel23
    but have Filipino blood... Still original
    So? 9999 out of 10000 Filipinos will not look like Mick Pennisi a bit. On the other hand someone from China looks no different than a normal Chinese Singaporean, consisting of 70% of the population.

    In other words, if someone like Mick Pennisi can be considered a Filipino and not a naturalized player then I don't understand why you Filipinos make a big deal of Singapore "naturalizing" a Chinese citizen to play for them. After all Singapore is a place where thousands of Chinese immigrate every week; not sure if Philippines is a hot place for Americans or Australians to go to, other than basketball players (especially tall ones like Pennisi).
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinobball
    not sure if Philippines is a hot place for Americans or Australians to go to, other than basketball players (especially tall ones like Pennisi).
    "THE Philippines' tourist attractions top those in two wealthier Southeast Asian nations, according to the top Chinese diplomat in Manila".

    Any kind of white people can be seen in every single islands of the philippines... navy, army, or plainly tourist is everywhere... you'll see blacks,whites,asians,latinos everywhere... you will see a white or black dude speaks TAGALOG fluently and cant speak english at all...

    so, I dont question a white or black guy saying that they are half filipino so they can play basketball in country...coz philippines is a country of different race...

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    all the philippine national teams since the american colonial period always have mixed race players from europe and the USA. in the 1930s, there was Charles Borck and spanish mestixo mixed race players. in the 1940s to the 1960s, there was caloy loyzaga, kurt bachmann, and other mixed race players,. in the 70s, there was Jaworski, Freddie Webb, and other mixed rce players. in the 1980s, there was Ricardo Brown, Willie Pearson,, etc. and so on. i have not even mentioned the chinese-filipino players and the indian-filipino players and of course the black-filipinos.
    my great-grandfather on my mother's side was an american puti so i'm a white leghorn mixed with native breeds and chinese mix too.



    Quote Originally Posted by Dinamita
    "THE Philippines' tourist attractions top those in two wealthier Southeast Asian nations, according to the top Chinese diplomat in Manila".

    Any kind of white people can be seen in every single islands of the philippines... navy, army, or plainly tourist is everywhere... you'll see blacks,whites,asians,latinos everywhere... you will see a white or black dude speaks TAGALOG fluently and cant speak english at all...

    so, I dont question a white or black guy saying that they are half filipino so they can play basketball in country...coz philippines is a country of different race...

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    TEAM PILIPINAS WOMEN POST WIN # 2!!

    The RP-Cebuana Lhuillier women’s squad trounced Indonesia, 70-54, Tuesday night for its second straight victory in the Southeast Asian Basketball (SEABA) Championship in Phuket, Thailand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinobball
    After all Singapore is a place where thousands of Chinese immigrate every week; not sure if Philippines is a hot place for Americans or Australians to go to, other than basketball players (especially tall ones like Pennisi).
    You might also want to consider the fact that the Philippines was home to at least two major U.S. military installations before 1991. If you take a walk around the cities of Olongapo and Angeles, chances are you won't be able to count with your fingers the number of Amerasians living in the area.

    A lot of homegrown players, in fact, were born into those conditions. I can recall the likes of KG Canaleta and Gabby Espinas as players who hail from the two cities mentioned earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinobball
    So? 9999 out of 10000 Filipinos will not look like Mick Pennisi a bit. On the other hand someone from China looks no different than a normal Chinese Singaporean, consisting of 70% of the population.

    In other words, if someone like Mick Pennisi can be considered a Filipino and not a naturalized player then I don't understand why you Filipinos make a big deal of Singapore "naturalizing" a Chinese citizen to play for them. After all Singapore is a place where thousands of Chinese immigrate every week; not sure if Philippines is a hot place for Americans or Australians to go to, other than basketball players (especially tall ones like Pennisi).
    It depends on his legacy, genes... Micks look much from his father(who is Italian-Australian) than his mother have Filipino blood... I think his nose from his mother ..

    Other way, I don't think Singaporean naturalizing from Chinese players. But I know many Chiinese people in Singapore and they migrated there.

    Yes, Philippines is hot place a bit for Americans and Australians. For Filipinos, Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia and our South East Asian neighbors are very hot place there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinobball
    So? 9999 out of 10000 Filipinos will not look like Mick Pennisi a bit. On the other hand someone from China looks no different than a normal Chinese Singaporean, consisting of 70% of the population.

    In other words, if someone like Mick Pennisi can be considered a Filipino and not a naturalized player then I don't understand why you Filipinos make a big deal of Singapore "naturalizing" a Chinese citizen to play for them. After all Singapore is a place where thousands of Chinese immigrate every week; not sure if Philippines is a hot place for Americans or Australians to go to, other than basketball players (especially tall ones like Pennisi).
    Good point!

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    Quote Originally Posted by joel23
    Yes, Philippines is hot place a bit for Americans and Australians. For Filipinos, Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia and our South East Asian neighbors are very hot place there.
    Tourists are different than residents, you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinobball
    Tourists are different than residents, you know.
    yeah,,..

    Others, Thailand, Malaysia and our South East Asian neighbors are too hot for Filipinos...

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    wow, everyone so off topic
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    Quote Originally Posted by JET007
    wow, everyone so off topic

    Sometimes, it's called a recess. If congress have their own recess (even if they haven't done anything), we might as well take a break from basketball for a change.
    Last edited by dreamwalker; 10-21-2007 at 03:31 AM.

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