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    Spurs trade PG Udrih to Timberwolves, October 29, 2007

    The San Antonio Spurs traded point guard Beno Udrih to the Minnesota Timberwolves in exchange for a second-round draft pick in 2008.

    The 6-3 Udrih averaged 5.2 points and 1.8 assists per game over three seasons with the Spurs.

    The 25-year-old averaged a career-high 5.9 points per game in 2004-05 and appeared in 207 games - including six starts - during his tenure with the Spurs.

    Later in the day, Udrih was waived by the Timberwolves.
    In many ways, this is liberating for Udrih. In my opinion, he's one of the better PGs in the game. I really think he could start for a few teams, including my hometown Cleveland Cavaliers, and come off the bench for many more. But this is not a good time to try to find a spot in the NBA, because all teams are trying to get rid of players. Udrih is one of the many, many players who get suffocated in lousy situations for reasons that are, well, not understandable. I don't know why Jaques Vaughn was considered so much better than Udrih.

    So what's next for Udrih? Any rumors? Will he return to Israel, where Maccabi has been snatching up their old players and new free agents? Or is he headed for Ulan Bater, whose team has been struggling to schedule games?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvblair
    So what's next for Udrih? Any rumors? Will he return to Israel, where Maccabi has been snatching up their old players and new free agents? Or is he headed for Ulan Bater, whose team has been struggling to schedule games?
    Ulan Bator.

    His home Euroleague team Olimpija is searching for another guard.

    Considering he injured his index finger on his shooting hand and will be out for few more weeks, the best thing in my opinion would be for him to return to Slovenia and sign untill end of season.

    He would be a starting player on PG/SG and with a good season he would be able to get a huge contract in the next one from some top Euroleague club or even return to the NBA.

    Yeah, I know this won't gonna happen, he would probably perfer more money and sit on the bench considering he was doing that for his whole NBA career.

    Still, I doubt he will have any problems finding the team as soon as he recoveres from his injury. Rich teams like Barcelona, Olympiakos already showed some interest in signing him a month or two ago, I guess he made a huge mistake that he didn't sign back then, because now his price dropped drasticaly comparing to the price he had month or two ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elaj
    Ulan Bator.

    His home Euroleague team Olimpija is searching for another guard.

    Considering he injured his index finger on his shooting hand and will be out for few more weeks, the best thing in my opinion would be for him to return to Slovenia and sign untill end of season.

    He would be a starting player on PG/SG and with a good season he would be able to get a huge contract in the next one from some top Euroleague club or even return to the NBA.

    Yeah, I know this won't gonna happen, he would probably perfer more money and sit on the bench considering he was doing that for his whole NBA career.

    Still, I doubt he will have any problems finding the team as soon as he recoveres from his injury. Rich teams like Barcelona, Olympiakos already showed some interest in signing him a month or two ago, I guess he made a huge mistake that he didn't sign back then, because now his price dropped drasticaly comparing to the price he had month or two ago.
    Olympiacos shoud grab him why he didn't played in NT if he's warming bench in NBA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight forward
    Olympiacos shoud grab him why he didn't played in NT if he's warming bench in NBA?
    "He needed to prepare himself for the next NBA season" ... to be honest I don't know. We heard many things during the summer about him, from the fact that he is partying with the girls on the beach (Tony Parker said that!), to that he is totally doomed emotionally... and after he joined Spurs for the camp, he broke his index finger on his shooting hand... some hard luck for him, I guess.

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    You guys are right; Udrih will land somewhere. If he goes to an NBA team that already has an established guard rotation, he's stupid. Obviously he should go to a team that needs someone off the bench or to start, but not in another situation where he's just sitting around. He's got to be on the court. Olimpia could be a good situation for him. I think Dragich is starting for Olimpia, and I've never liked him that much, but I've never really seen him. I'm sure Udrih could oust him
    Jeff McDonald Blog -- from San Antonio Express-News

    So Beno Udrih is out the door, traded to Minnesota after three mostly disappointing seasons in San Antonio.

    He had talent, certainly, but never quite seemed to recover from his very public, turnover-prone implosion against the Pistons in the 2005 NBA Finals. In the past few seasons, he spent more time in the doghouse and in the training room than on the court here.

    What does this deal mean for Darius Washington? It means Washington can stop holding his breath.

    He's made the Spurs' opening night roster, and for the time being seems to be in line for some playing time. He will be the Spurs' only healthy backup point guard tomorrow night against Portland.

    For Udrih, his departure is in part a matter of bad timing. He spent the bulk of the preseason on the shelf with a broken finger, just in time to watch Washington's emergence.

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    I don't see why any European teams (besides Olimpija) should be rushing to sign him.

    For one, he has never proven that he's able to stay healthy for more than a month at a time. He's always suffering from some nagging injury in his ankle, his calf, his knee, or now his finger, and you get the feeling that this is how his career is going to be defined. Plus, he's never shown even a minimum amount of toughness needed to play hurt.

    Second, he's obviously a lot more interested in having a good time than working hard. This isn't just from Parker's quote, but also from people who have worked up close with him in Europe as well.

    I really haven't seen anything from him that even remotely warrants calling him "one of the better PGs in the game." More like: one of the biggest enigmas.

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    He could make himself a place in almost any Euroleague team right now, but despite that, his options have reduced a lot, cause as in NBA, top Euroleague teams has his roster closed.
    Im sure he will end in a fine team where he could add quite a lot of talent to the team, but it is also true that 2 months ago, half Europe would have been behind him, and now he will have to take an offer much much inferior that he could have got.

    And some questions i ask myself in these cases: Did the spurs told him about his plans at some point??? when?? The team didnt guaranteed him a post in the roster or they lied to him? If they dont even guaranteed him a post, why did he wait so much there?? Was he conscient of the great contract and minutes he could get here? Was his agent conscient??? IMO somebody's has done very very bad his job.
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    more or less agree with everything you guys said before me

    Quote Originally Posted by Neozyrus
    And some questions i ask myself in these cases: Did the spurs told him about his plans at some point??? when?? The team didnt guaranteed him a post in the roster or they lied to him? If they dont even guaranteed him a post, why did he wait so much there?? Was he conscient of the great contract and minutes he could get here? Was his agent conscient??? IMO somebody's has done very very bad his job.
    I think he blindly believed he'd stay on the roster, even letting european championship go because of that to prepar himself better on the season, but when he broke his finger trade was imo just a matter of time...

    You guys are right; Udrih will land somewhere. If he goes to an NBA team that already has an established guard rotation, he's stupid. Obviously he should go to a team that needs someone off the bench or to start, but not in another situation where he's just sitting around. He's got to be on the court. Olimpia could be a good situation for him. I think Dragich is starting for Olimpia, and I've never liked him that much, but I've never really seen him. I'm sure Udrih could oust him
    agreed on everything but the Dragič part, imho he has the talent to surpass Beno... especially when we're talking about defense, where Goran might evolve into one of the better defenders on PG position.

    Beno has to return to europe to re-gain some of his lost confidence, instead of warming the bench on one more NBA team... didn't hurt Planinić at all, while Welsch for example is just a shadow of his former self after sitting through few seasons in NBA...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheezdoodle
    I really haven't seen anything from him that even remotely warrants calling him "one of the better PGs in the game." More like: one of the biggest enigmas.
    Yeah, he is enigmatic. He's a great athlete, but he hasn't spent too much time on the court. How good could he be?
    Quote Originally Posted by Matiz
    agreed on everything but the Dragič part, imho he has the talent to surpass Beno... especially when we're talking about defense, where Goran might evolve into one of the better defenders on PG position.
    I haven't seen that from him yet. Of course, I haven't seen him yet. No, I saw him play a little this summer. I think he played in two games and scored a few times. And I think in the '05 Albert Schweitzer, he scored something like 20 points a game, which is good. Maybe he's going to be good (he's certainly young enough), but at this point, I think Udrih could run circles around him. Just my opinion, not having seen Dragic.
    Beno has to return to europe to re-gain some of his lost confidence, instead of warming the bench on one more NBA team... didn't hurt Planinić at all, while Welsch for example is just a shadow of his former self after sitting through few seasons in NBA...
    Man, I feel sorry for Welsch. He had so much promise. Planinic is doing fine though. I think he was given an offer by the Cavs after he left New Jersey, but went to Spain instead (Vitoria?).

    Udrih will land on his feet. This is just bad-timing for such an injury!

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    I don't think Udrih is a great athlete by any stretch, but nevermind I suppose.

    He clears waivers in two hours and from what I've been told, has already found an NBA team that wants to sign him. Wouldn't surprise me if its Cleveland.

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    Udrih ended up signing in Sacramento. He'll have a great chance to compete for minutes there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheezdoodle
    Udrih ended up signing in Sacramento. He'll have a great chance to compete for minutes there.
    On one hand, Sacramento's 2nd pg sucks so i think he can be 2nd pg easily but, on the otgher hand, Bibby averages a great amount of minutes per game, so i dont know how many minutes could he possibly play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neozyrus
    On one hand, Sacramento's 2nd pg sucks so i think he can be 2nd pg easily but, on the otgher hand, Bibby averages a great amount of minutes per game, so i dont know how many minutes could he possibly play.
    well, Bibby is out for 8 weeks probably so Udrih will see enough playing time until he comes back...
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    some of the people on the forum are allowed to do whatever they want as long as they have guys from upstairs holding their back. way to go interbasket!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neozyrus
    On one hand, Sacramento's 2nd pg sucks so i think he can be 2nd pg easily but, on the otgher hand, Bibby averages a great amount of minutes per game, so i dont know how many minutes could he possibly play.
    I didn't know who there back-up PG was. I looked it up. It's Quincy Douby. He was great in college, but has been lousy in two years in the NBA. The is alsoOrien Greene. He came in the league 2 years ago and is on his 3rd team already. So, yes, it looks like Udrih will get a lot of minutes. The problem is it will be a lot of minutes on a bad team.

    It won't get any easier for Kings, by Sam Amick, November 2, 2007 -- Sacaremento Bee

    "The cavalry is coming." Kings coach Reggie Theus said it as if Kobe Bryant himself was headed to Sacramento, or at least Joakim Noah.

    Alas, the Kings' only addition a day after their blowout loss at New Orleans in the regular season opener was that of Beno Udrih.

    The fourth-year point guard was signed to a one-year contract for the league minimum ($826,046) in emergency fashion, with Mike Bibby out for at least 10 weeks after having thumb surgery Sunday. The Kings' opener showed the desperate state of affairs in a 104-90 loss at New Orleans in which they trailed by as many as 26 points...

    ...Officially, Theus has proven what he's been preaching all preseason, that status or pay will have no bearing on playing time....

    Udrih is expected to have joined the Kings by today, but he will not play against the Spurs tonight and won't likely be ready for at least a week due to a finger injury. He may, however, be given the championship ring he won with San Antonio last season.

    He was drafted 28th overall in 2004 (two spots behind Martin, the Kings shooting guard), and played his first three seasons with the Spurs while winning two titles. He was traded to Minnesota on Oct. 27, then waived soon thereafter before being signed as a free agent.

    At times in San Antonio, he was the dependable backup to Tony Parker, yet he spent other times being surpassed by Nick Van Exel or Jacques Vaughn.

    For his career, the Slovenian averaged 13 minutes, 5.2 points and 1.8 assists. He won't, however, be able to offer immediate assistance, as Udrih broke a finger on his shooting hand in Spurs training camp and, according to his agent, has at least a week of recovery remaining.

    "Beno's the kind of player who's a pure point guard," his agent, Marc Cornstein said. "I think he'll make a lot of the talented young wings in Sacramento like Kevin and Francisco (García) and John (Salmons) better as well, and getting them the ball when they need it."

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    Beno Udrih should play his first game for Sacramento Kings on 9.11.

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    Udrih made his Kings debut tonight and played 26 minutes, with 9 points and 5 rebounds. Getting released by the Spurs will probably turn out to be a positive for his career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JGX
    Getting released by the Spurs will probably turn out to be a positive for his career.
    I think you're right about that!
    NBA Recaps, Kings 100 - Timberwolves 93

    SACRAMENTO, California (Ticker) -- Kevin Martin scored 29 points and Beno Udrih played well in his first game of the season as the Sacramento Kings held off the Minnesota Timberwolves, 100-93, on Saturday.

    ....Minnesota drew within 94-93 on a 3-pointer by Rashad McCants with one minute to go, but Udrih, who signed as a free agent this offseason after playing for the San Antonio Spurs, hit a jumper from the right of the free-throw line with 48 ticks left. After a defensive stop, Miller tipped in a miss by Udrih with 10 seconds left for a 98-93 edge.

    Udrih, who was out with a finger injury, had nine points, five rebounds and two assists in 26 minutes....
    Jump shot
    Drive to the basket
    Walking off court
    Running the point
    Lay-up in traffic

    Getting his NBA Championship ring

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    If he continues this way for some games, maybe next year he could get the contract that he really deserves.
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    Has anybody checked up on Udrih recently? I just did.

    versus Utah: 30 minutes and 11 points
    versus Minnesota: 40 minutes and 17 points, 5 assists
    versus New York: 43 minutes and 10 points, 5 assists

    He's averaging 12 points, 3 rebounds, and 3.5 assits. Pretty good!

    Driving around Jamal Crawford
    Charging down the court
    Easy lay-up between AK47 and Boozer
    Lay-up between AK47 and Boozer II
    Rebounding with AK47
    He's a left-hander!

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    Beno had another monster game last night. Sacramento defeated Detroit. His line? 23 points (9-13), 6 assists, 4 rebounds in 38 minutes with only 2 fouls. That's fantastic.

    Sacramento 105, Detroit 95 -- November 18, 2007, AP

    Unwanted in San Antonio, Beno Udrih appears to have found a home with the Sacramento Kings.

    Udrih had 23 points and six assists to help the Kings beat the Detroit Pistons 105-95 on Sunday night.

    Udrih, a late preseason cut by San Antonio who came to the Kings as a backup when Mike Bibby was injured just prior to the season, has quickly become a starter. He showed why against the Pistons, hitting 9 of 13 shots from the field and all five of his free throw attempts and fueling a strong second half by the Kings.

    "I chose this team because I knew I would get an opportunity to play; I didn't get that in San Antonio," said Udrih, who played three seasons with the Spurs and owns two championship rings.

    "Playing regular minutes has helped my confidence. In San Antonio I never knew how much I would play. I won't come out here if I miss one or two shots in a row."

    Udrih hardly missed anything in the third quarter when he scored 15 points, including 11 in a stretch where the Kings outscored Detroit 15-1 to take the lead after trailing by nine points.

    "He had an unbelievable game in the third quarter," Detroit coach Flip Saunders said. "He made shots and he made plays. He's been playing extremely well for them."

    ....
    Defending Chauncey Billups
    Getting some love from teammates
    Going for a lay-up around Billups
    Good high jump!
    Good body control!

    I'm not making any unusual prediction when I say that I think Sacramento is going to try trading Bibby again. With Udrih playing this well (better than Bibby played all last year), Bibby can be dealt to a team that needs a PG (namely Cleveland or Miami).

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