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    Yes, Im wondering why can't FIBA split Fiba Asia into 2 areas.

    Looking at difference and diversity of races and cultures of Asian countries; we can see that with a large number of participants and little number of slots allotted for Asia (which is only 1), with that we can see that some countries never even bother to try to form and develop a team which I think FIba should look upon if they want to promote basketball around the world. So in my opinion split asia in to two different federation like Fiba W.Asia and Fiba E.Asia. Fiba W.Asia would be WABA and middle Asia while Fiba E.Asia would be the SEABA and East Asian teams.

    Maybe with this Asian countries could be given more opportunity to participate in international events outside asia and maybe convince other countries to develop their basketball programs due to the number of competitors.


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    Just the size of Asia would be reason enough to do it. I think the main reason FIBA won't do it is, they'd have to give a olympic spot for each zone, instead of 1 for the whole Asia.

    India would go to East Asia or West?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alermac
    Just the size of Asia would be reason enough to do it. I think the main reason FIBA won't do it is, they'd have to give a olympic spot for each zone, instead of 1 for the whole Asia.

    India would go to East Asia or West?
    well theyre included in Middle Asia so maybe to the west.


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    That's impossible... you can't split FIBA Asia... there's a reason why that there's only one team allowed to qualify in the WBC or the Olympics... we can't just split a region who had national teams less capable to beat those in Europe and the Americas... Maybe the Americas and Europe where there are a lot of world-class national teams that supposed to be in the WBC or Olympics and only miss out because there's a lot of good national teams in their region...

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    I second the motion! but donmar also has a point. On the other hand, we dont develop basketball in the region with very limited competition

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    Basketball is a great game, but people who responsible for international tournaments are stupid and ignorant. Asia deserves 2 and even more spots in Olympics in the future. 1 slot for Asia is nonsense. Everybody knows that China will win that slot and don't worry to develop faster. Of course it is easy for China with 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 people, which of them only 2 is nice players... Anyway this is the same nonsense as Lithuania got only 1 slot in Euroleague.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donmar
    That's impossible... you can't split FIBA Asia... there's a reason why that there's only one team allowed to qualify in the WBC or the Olympics... we can't just split a region who had national teams less capable to beat those in Europe and the Americas... Maybe the Americas and Europe where there are a lot of world-class national teams that supposed to be in the WBC or Olympics and only miss out because there's a lot of good national teams in their region...
    Thats my point, the reason why many countries doesnt have a good basketball program because they have smaller chances of going up to the WBC and Olympics. Fiba shouldn't just be hosting events but also making it a priority to promote the sports in the weak countries by splitting asia so they can focus on more countries.


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    Quote Originally Posted by b3lowzro
    Thats my point, the reason why many countries doesnt have a good basketball program because they have smaller chances of going up to the WBC and Olympics. Fiba shouldn't just be hosting events but also making it a priority to promote the sports in the weak countries by splitting asia so they can focus on more countries.
    I agree with you... I think having 1 spot for a region of more than a billion people is very unfair... especially the potential market that FIBA can exploiit

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    Quote Originally Posted by donmar
    I agree with you... I think having 1 spot for a region of more than a billion people is very unfair... especially the potential market that FIBA can exploiit
    what do you let Australia join Fiba Asia too just like what they did for football?


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    Quote Originally Posted by House
    Basketball is a great game, but people who responsible for international tournaments are stupid and ignorant. Asia deserves 2 and even more spots in Olympics in the future. 1 slot for Asia is nonsense. Everybody knows that China will win that slot and don't worry to develop faster. Of course it is easy for China with 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 people, which of them only 2 is nice players... Anyway this is the same nonsense as Lithuania got only 1 slot in Euroleague.
    China have only 2 nice players?
    Lithuania team C have been beat nearly 20pts by China NT two times just some days before. China NT have no Yao, and doesn't play the best lineup in the second game. (After that Lithuania team C beat korea NT 16pts in a game.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by b3lowzro
    what do you let Australia join Fiba Asia too just like what they did for football?
    No I don't agree with that... if Australia joins the FIBA Asia... that would degrade Oceania basketball and would give us even more little chance to go beyond Asia...

    I didn't agree when Australia join AFC... beside, unlike in football, whoever wins in Oceania made it to the World Champs or the Olympics right away..

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldnews
    China have only 2 nice players?
    Lithuania team C have been beat nearly 20pts by China NT two times just some days before. China NT have no Yao, and doesn't play the best lineup in the second game. (After that Lithuania team C beat korea NT 16pts in a game.)
    so oldnews what do you think should we split Fiba asia into 2?


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    I think it is a good time to bring this thread back.

    It would make a lot of sense to split Asia into West and East.

    The distance and the cultural differences between the two regions makes logistics very hard.

    The Europeans have a very compact zone that is culturally the same across it's entirely span. This creates a far better organization.

    Fiba in Asia right now is way too big. It is simply too unwieldy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alermac
    Just the size of Asia would be reason enough to do it. I think the main reason FIBA won't do it is, they'd have to give a olympic spot for each zone, instead of 1 for the whole Asia.

    India would go to East Asia or West?
    go South!

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    Spots for the Olympics should be no longer an issue as FIBA announced they are going to 16 teams from 12 -- unless they intend those slots to go to Europe or the Americas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonBalls
    I think it is a good time to bring this thread back.

    It would make a lot of sense to split Asia into West and East.

    The distance and the cultural differences between the two regions makes logistics very hard.

    The Europeans have a very compact zone that is culturally the same across it's entirely span. This creates a far better organization.

    Fiba in Asia right now is way too big. It is simply too unwieldy.
    The other way is to merge West Asia with North Africa to form a region of middle-east, and to merge Oceania with East Asia and South Asia.

    Geographic-wise, it will work perfectly.

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    As competition gets better, and there's more funding for basketball programs I think Fiba might take a look at it. Basketball is growing in China and David Stern is already looking at marketing there, and now India. I think eventually FIBA will have to give Asia more slots.

    I think a Unified Asian league would be nice, but I'm not sure if the CBA would agree to this. If it works out like that, China's guards could at least have more room for growth instead of playing against mediocre competition.

    Free Chen Jianghua!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Magician
    The other way is to merge West Asia with North Africa to form a region of middle-east, and to merge Oceania with East Asia and South Asia.

    Geographic-wise, it will work perfectly.
    This one is more acceptable for me... specially in terms of regional club competitions... this idea should solve everything

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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonBalls
    Spots for the Olympics should be no longer an issue as FIBA announced they are going to 16 teams from 12 -- unless they intend those slots to go to Europe or the Americas.
    well it means more slots for EUROPE and the AMERICAS, i honestly believe that they will still not award more slots for Africa and Asia due to the fact that Fiba doesn't want its hands to get dirty developing these continents poor countries.


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    in FIFA, when Australia was still in the Oceania Zone, whoever wins the Oceania Zone will have to play the fifth place finisher of Asia or the 6th place finisher of South America to earn a spot to the FIFA World Cup.

    2006 was a breakthrough for the aussies as they beat the Uruguayuans in the 2 game playoffs..but still, the Aussies applied in the AFC, as they have greater chances to land in the 4 spots afforded to Asia in the World Cup than play and tried to qualify against the teh 6th best of South America
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