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    Quote Originally Posted by b3lowzro View Post
    sorry to be OT here but can Jordan's sons play for the Mexican NT? Isn't that their mom Juanita used to be a Mexican.
    Bro, Juanita is puertorrican.
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    16 free throws in the last 4 minutes...
    Puerto Rico had 20 the whole game

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    The groups are already defined?? The USA won't participate, isn't it??

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    Hello from Greece! I think that without USA in the championship, Argentina and Brazil will easily be at the final, this year. What concerns me is which teams will take the 3rd and 4th place, in order to qualify for the World Championship. I was very disappointed by Canada last year at the Olympic Qualifying Tournament in Athens. I also think that if Puerto Rico had a better coach maybe would have qualified for the Olympics. I will be glad to see Uruguay qualifying for the World Championship cause i really liked very much Esteban Batista, when he was playing in Europe. But i think, it will be very tough for them.

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    Charlie Villanueva is likely to play for DR.
    The Dominican team is also trying to get Trevor Ariza to play for the NT.
    The USVI is trying to get Tim Duncan to play for the NT.

    http://www.elnuevodia.com/dominicana...ha-566412.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by -K2- View Post
    Charlie Villanueva is likely to play for DR.
    The Dominican team is also trying to get Trevor Ariza to play for the NT.
    The USVI is trying to get Tim Duncan to play for the NT.

    http://www.elnuevodia.com/dominicana...ha-566412.html
    Hmmm, Duncan played for USA already, so IMO he can't play for other NT what so ever. FIBA rules doesn't allow that


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    Quote Originally Posted by Luíz for 3 View Post
    The groups are already defined?? The USA won't participate, isn't it??
    Not ready defined and USA won't participate....
    Originally Posted by -K2- View Post
    16 free throws in the last 4 minutes...
    Puerto Rico had 20 the whole game

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    When is the fiba americas tournament draw?
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    16 free throws in the last 4 minutes...
    Puerto Rico had 20 the whole game

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    Argentine sportscasters has reported that FIBA might strip Mexico of hosting the Tournament of Americas, not because of the swine flu but (surprisingly) because of lack of payment (just like Venezuela in 2007). Yet i can't find any confirmation about it.

    PS: Is Venezuela going to be part of the Tournament? Remember they are no longer part of FIBA Americas after the conflict between both presidents

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    Here is the confirmation. Mexico won't be hosting it.

    Out of Mexico the 2009 FIBA Americas Championship.

    SAN JUAN (2009 FIBA Americas Championship) - FIBA Americas have decided to withdraw the 2009 FIBA Americas Championship from Mexico.

    Mr. Alberto Garcia, Secretary General of FIBA Americas, informed that due to the fact that the organizers failed to pay for the rights to host the tournament, the international regent body determined to withdraw the Seat from that country.

    After some discussions held with the people in charge of organizing the 2009 FIBA Americas Championship for Men, a positive answer from their part was not received, and the situation worsened after the organizers failed to complete one of the scheduled payments and instead announced their intention of withdrawing the city of Mexicali (whose main sponsor was the Sport and Physical Culture Institute of Baja California) as a sub-seat for the Event.

    Mr. Garcia also added that today a letter was sent to all the participant countries, with the exception of Mexico, with the purpose of offering them the possibility of organizing this important event.

    Judging by his comments, and the fact that there is little time to organize the event, the countries shall present their answer on, or before, May 22nd. The Event is scheduled for August 26th to September 6th, 2009.

    There have been reports that until now four countries have expressed their interest to evaluate this possibility in detail to the Secretary General. These countries are: Uruguay, Puerto Rico, Argentina, and Canada.

    The 2009 FIBA Americas Championship qualifies the best four teams from the Americas to the 2010 FIBA World Championship to be held in Turkey.

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    Here are more details: http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/new...0201/arti.html

    Is Mexico now out of the competition and who is taking their place in the field? The possible hosts are all already qualified...

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    Quote Originally Posted by luuij_ss View Post

    possible men for dominican roster are:

    Ronald Ramon G
    Sammy Mejia PG
    Trevor Ariza SF
    Dominik Mejia G
    DAMIEN MCSWINE PG
    Edgar Sosa PG
    Charlie Villanueva SF
    Francisco Garcia SF
    Reggie Charles SF
    Ricky Soliver G
    Marlon Martines F
    Ivan Almonte F
    Ricky Greer G
    Jeff Greer G
    Richard Hidalgo PF/c
    Edward Santana F
    Juan Araujo F
    Quincy Bouby G
    Pablo OZUNA F
    Amauris Filion F
    La BOA PAULINO G
    RAPHAEL MADERA C
    francisco Alberto Ozuna
    Andy William Turner Baltazar G
    JUAN PABLO MONTAS F
    JOSE APOLINARIO PF/C
    FELIX CRUZ F
    MARLON MARTINEZ F
    cALROS PANIAGUA F
    Al Horford PF/C
    Joshua Asslin C
    Luis Flores PG/SG
    Jaime Peterson PF
    Miguel Angel Pichardo C/F
    Jack Michael F
    Flankin Westen PF
    Luis Felipe Lopez Lopez PG/SF
    Amauri Fillion SF
    Manny Quezada PG/SG
    Joel Ramirez PG
    Andres Sandoval PG
    Manuel Fortuna SG
    Kelvin Pena PG/SG
    Carlos Morban G
    Franklin Western F
    Eulis Baez F
    Alejandro Flores F
    Henry Lalane SF
    Manuel Guzman G
    Otto Vantroy PG
    Hansel Salvador PG
    Alejandro Salas PG

    I particularly would choose:
    Ronald Ramon G
    Sammy Mejia PG/G
    Dominik Mejia G
    DAMIEN MCSWINE PG
    Charlie Villanueva SF
    Francisco Garcia SF
    Ricky Soliver G
    Ricky Greer G/SF
    Jeff Greer G/SF
    Al Horford PF/C
    Joshua Asslin C
    Luis Flores PG/SG
    Trevor Ariza SF
    That's 4 bonafide, quality NBAers. . . though only few as compared to their compatriots in Major League Baseball, which currently have 22 Dominicans playing. . . Villanueva and company, I think is more stronger than the traditional powerhouse Puerto Rico, I would like them to qualify and play next year's FIBA World championships.

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    The way this is going, Miami Tropics will end up winning the championship.

    The fairest way to determine the last spot would be a playoff between Mexico, Panama, and Colombia, but I suspect that Mexico will end up keeing their place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FilWelsh View Post
    That's 4 bonafide, quality NBAers. . . though only few as compared to their compatriots in Major League Baseball, which currently have 22 Dominicans playing. . . Villanueva and company, I think is more stronger than the traditional powerhouse Puerto Rico, I would like them to qualify and play next year's FIBA World championships.
    How do you know that this Dominican team is better tha PR?, you see they playing in Centrobasket 08 with Garcia, Horford and co.??, I don't think so.
    Originally Posted by -K2- View Post
    16 free throws in the last 4 minutes...
    Puerto Rico had 20 the whole game

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRSURF View Post
    How do you know that this Dominican team is better tha PR?, you see they playing in Centrobasket 08 with Garcia, Horford and co.??, I don't think so.
    Dominican NT has definitely more star power, but we also saw what happened in 2005, that team also played well below the expectations.

    Quote Originally Posted by JGX
    The fairest way to determine the last spot would be a playoff between Mexico, Panama, and Colombia, but I suspect that Mexico will end up keeing their place.
    I think the same. But i still not sure about whether Venezuela will be allowed to play, maybe Colombia or Panamá can fill in if necessary.

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    The whole tournament looks like a train wreck so far, and they only have a little over three months to get it fixed.
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    Puerto Rico will ask for the rights to be host of the tournament. The city of San Juan have offered the Roberto Clemente Coliseum as a venue. The Choliseo could be another possibility. "Salvi" Vilella (Former GM of the PRNT and organizer of the ToA 1999 & 2003) is organizing the possible tournament in the island.

    http://www.elnuevodia.com/sinsedeelp...al-569124.html


    With all due respect to the mexican posters here... Mexico hosting the ToA is like Puerto Rico hosting a major soccer tournament Im searching in thepaperboy.com for mexican newspapers and no mention about Mexico losing the tournament.
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    Dominican Republic started their preparation for CaribeBasket in Tortola.
    Leandro Barbosa will play in the ToA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRSURF View Post
    How do you know that this Dominican team is better tha PR?, you see they playing in Centrobasket 08 with Garcia, Horford and co.??, I don't think so.
    we will see. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by -K2- View Post

    With all due respect to the mexican posters here... Mexico hosting the ToA is like Puerto Rico hosting a major soccer tournament Im searching in thepaperboy.com for mexican newspapers and no mention about Mexico losing the tournament.
    how about the simple fact that they did not qualify for the tournament should be enough to keep em out. As far as i am concerned there are 7 months to go till X-mas so i dont see the need to give them the privilege to participate.
    Carlos Beltran pres of the Basketball federation of PR some key points:
    1. Miscalculation of Goal average for 2nd WC in a row.
    2. Manolo Cintron is the definition of mediocrity and is trash. He is fired often, and sometimes can't get a job in BSN.
    3. FBPR left some of the players without return tickets out of Turkey. Players found out when they got to the airport. And had to pay their own tickets.
    4. 5 yr ago we were 6th in the world, after the WC we are lucky if 16th.

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    With all due respect to the mexican posters here... Mexico hosting the ToA is like Puerto Rico hosting a major soccer tournament Im searching in thepaperboy.com for mexican newspapers and no mention about Mexico losing the tournament. [/QUOTE]

    This sounds like only big basketball countries are supposed to host such an event?
    I call this ignorant and disrespectful towards countries that want to promote basketball within their borders and it does not matter if you put a smilie behind it or not. Calling yourself a moderator but you dont descalate but provoke, great job K2!

    And Mexican newspapers did report about it. When I searched the web for more inside on the news, I found plenty.
    Guess your antic web-searching tools need to be updated.

    @LFGC79: Who should be instead participating in the tourney in your opinion? Spit some of your knowledge...and why didnt the Boriqua apply to host the tournament in the first place? Where was Puerto Rico when it was time to decide who is going to host the tournament? Don"t tell me your president,blah blah,blah...

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