i did not say more sucessful, i said better. GMU has always been in a lighter conference while marshall is in a relatively stronger and more popular conference. for example, most if not all of the teams in the big ten conference can probably win the championships of some other minor conferences and earns an ncaa stint. but no, they don't transfer to those weaker, less popular conferences. there's more to the ncaa than earning an ncaa berth and experience "one and done"Originally Posted by JonarSabilano
err jonar did he mentioned those teams?i think im the one ur in discussion with concerning the comparison of those 3
Wait. You mean the Summit League is better than the CAA? You can make an argument for the C-USA being better, but Memphis dominated the league until this year. How many at-large bids have been given to teams outside Memphis anyway?
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Sorry, I got tangled up. Kakagising langerr jonar did he mentioned those teams?i think im the one ur in discussion with concerning the comparison of those 3still, I'd like to see a discussion where every assertion is backed up by concrete evidence. For example, reamily could say that Eastern Carolina is 7-16 this year. Something like that.
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uum performance is relative. but in terms of reputation, i'd say yes. that is why GMU really shocked the world when they scored upsets over north carolina and connecticut en route the final four.
GMU shocked the world partly because they were CAA members. But partly, it was also because they didn't win their conference championship and was given an at-large bid that people thought should have been given to Hofstra. The CAA has had 6 wins in the NCAA tournament, including that GMU Final Four run and the first-round Virginia Commonwealth win over Duke in 2007, with Eric Maynor leading the rams. Prior to 2006, the league had wins in 2002 and 2001. They had two teams in the NCAA tournament in 2007 (VCU and ODU), 2006 (GMU and UNC-Wilmington), and 2001 (Hofstra and Georgia State).
As for the Summit League, I'm sorry but it's been a one-bid league since 1996. Its collective record in the NCAA tournament is a measly 2-13, not counting that play-in game win by Oakland against Alabama A&M in 2005.
I have to admit, though, that the C-USA has been more competitive than either of these leagues.
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precisely.
just to clarify, i said lutz school is better and more popular regardless of its ncaa stints than gmu because it belongs to a more popular and stronger conference. it was not my intention to say that oakland or summit is better than gmu or caa.
but of course, that is not to demean the talents of norwood and williams. those guys have game, it's just that more americans are better, stronger and more athletic than them hence they were'nt able to make it to the top teams of d1.
by the way the current ranking has marshall at 87 while GMU is at 130.
cant wait to see chris lutz to don RP team jersey maybe after the NCAA tournament. they have a shot to qualify for the tournament. if not they can play NIT. another shooter awaits smart gilas team.
i read once in a basketball mag (SI or AS, i forgot) that he has some athleticism than him. i hope he's not a one-dimensional jumpshooter like duke legend redrick
I just want to share some info for those who are not that familiar with Chris Lutz, that the Original College team of Lutz was not Marshall but the Purdue Boilermakers its just that he chosen to transfer at smaller program in order to be closer from home and to be with family more frequent as he is close to his Filipina Mom Luzviminda. Chris actually had good showing in his freshman and sophomore years with Purdue.
2005-07 (Purdue):
Appeared in 62 games with 34 starts in two seasons at Purdue, averaging 25.8 minutes per game...named to the Big Ten All-Freshman Team in 2005-06...averaged 9.2 ppg, the second-highest average among all Big Ten freshmen...set Purdue's freshman 3-point field goal record with 53...hit a trey in all but two of 28 games played as a freshman...scored in double figures in 14 games, including a career-high 20 points vs. New Orleans...led the Big Ten in 3-point field goal percentage in 2006-07, shooting at a 47.2 percent clip (58-for-123) from distance...second on team with 2.1 assists per game...recorded a season-high 16 points vs. Arizona in the first round of the NCAA Tournament...went 4-for-6 from 3-point range against the Wildcats off the bench in first postseason action of career...totaled 23 minutes vs. eventual national champion Florida in second round, scoring two points...sank a career-high five 3-pointers on two occasions over career at Purdue.
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he have his reasons but still it was a wasted opportunity to grow and make a name for himself in a school with a better and more popular basketball program. it would have served his nba aspirations better.I just want to share some info for those who are not that familiar with Chris Lutz, that the Original College team of Lutz was not Marshall but the Purdue Boilermakers its just that he chosen to transfer at smaller program in order to be closer from home and to be with family more frequent as he is close to his Filipina Mom Luzviminda. Chris actually had good showing in his freshman and sophomore years with Purdue.
2005-07 (Purdue):
Appeared in 62 games with 34 starts in two seasons at Purdue, averaging 25.8 minutes per game...named to the Big Ten All-Freshman Team in 2005-06...averaged 9.2 ppg, the second-highest average among all Big Ten freshmen...set Purdue's freshman 3-point field goal record with 53...hit a trey in all but two of 28 games played as a freshman...scored in double figures in 14 games, including a career-high 20 points vs. New Orleans...led the Big Ten in 3-point field goal percentage in 2006-07, shooting at a 47.2 percent clip (58-for-123) from distance...second on team with 2.1 assists per game...recorded a season-high 16 points vs. Arizona in the first round of the NCAA Tournament...went 4-for-6 from 3-point range against the Wildcats off the bench in first postseason action of career...totaled 23 minutes vs. eventual national champion Florida in second round, scoring two points...sank a career-high five 3-pointers on two occasions over career at Purdue.
Those were some great arguments I just read. Guys do know their basketball around here.
Every PBA fan knows Chris Ross of Coca-Cola. Chris Ross is a former Thundering Herd as well, having ended his college career there in 2006-2007. He is a 6-1 PG, a major part of team, having played 33 games that season, contributing 7.4ppg.
Chris Lutz would've been his teammate if Lutz had transfered earlier. Lutz however plays the OG position judging from his numbers, much bigger at 6-3. He's a better shooter, thus his role on the team.
Below is a comparison in numbers Chris Ross in 33 games 06-07 vs. Chris Lutz 2009-10 after 24 games.
Chris Ross 6-1 G
2006-2007: Marshall (NCAA): 33 games: 7.4ppg, 3.0rpg, 4.0apg, 1.5spg, FGP: 40.7%, 3Pts: 34.1%, FT: 67.0%
Chris Lutz 6-3 G
2009-2010 Marshall (NCAA): 24 games: 8.5ppg, 2 rpg, 1.5apg,.8spg, FGP: 43.7%, 3Pts:46%, FT:81.8%
Chris Lutz may have better numbers in 08-09, but this year he is shooting better in terms of percentages (despite an awful first 5 games of averaging below 30% shooting).
Its tough to compare anyone with Chip Engelland, with his reputation as a shooter & a shooter guru. But Chris Lutz has the potential of being as effective in the shooter's role for SMART Gilas.
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East (58) -- Alex Anderson 4, Jarekious Bradley 20, Matthew Butler 2, Jamal Donaldson 9, Nick King 15, Theodore King 4, Earvin Morris 4.Melrose collapses in fourth quarter in loss to East
By David Boyd on February 9, 2010 10:26 PM
A week ago Melrose was 21-1, ranked No. 15 in USA Today, and was blowing out White Station (68-54) in the fourth quarter. Then, the Golden Wildcats started missing free throws, the Spartans' Joe Jackson went "Kobe" on them and Melrose lost 80-78.
Three nights later, Central defeated Melrose for the second time this season, 80-75.
Tonight, Melrose led 55-43 entering the fourth quarter of its home game with East. The Mustangs outscored Melrose 15-2 in the fourth quarter to hand Melrose a 58-57 loss.
Melrose is out of the running for next week's city championship, but can they turn it around before district tournament play begins?
Melrose (57) -- Devonte Hampton 7, Jermaine Hollimon 9, Chris Jones 6, Cedric McAfee 7, Nate Rucker 9, Adonis Thomas 14, Telvin Wilkerson 5.
East / 7 / 18 / 18 / 15 / -- / 58 /
Melrose / 17 / 23 / 15 / 2 / -- / 57 /
Records -- East 16-8 (7-4, 16 AAA).
Feb 11, 2010
Redlands Men's Basketball Rallies for Overtime Win against Pomona-Pitzer
Competing in its second overtime game in three outings, the University of Redlands men’s basketball team came out victorious over the Sagehens of Pomona-Pitzer Colleges in last night’s Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference (SCIAC) showdown in Claremont. In a tight battle between two talented teams, the Bulldogs took care of the ball at the charity stripe and knocked down a critical three-pointer in the overtime period to secure the 73-67 win,
With the victory, Redlands remains in sole possession of second place in the conference standings.
The Maroon and Gray trailed by eight with just over five minutes to go in the first half but rallied back with a 14-7 run to finish out the period down by one at 32-33.
Redlands then faced an early deficit in the second half and eventually tied it up for the fifth time all game at 56 apiece with 2:27 remaining.
Senior guard Andrew Maertens (Salt Lake City, UT) hit a jumper to put the Bulldogs up by two but the Sagehens responded with a three-pointer. However, Redlands also answered with a three by senior guard Pat Coffey (San Carlos, CA) to make it a two-point game with 1:41 left on the clock.
Pomona-Pitzer sank a jumper to tie it up again with 1:12 to go.
Despite having the ball with plenty of time, Redlands missed both of its final shots, resulting in the overtime.
After giving up the opening basket in the extra period, the Bulldogs tied it up off of a Maertens jumper and then gained the lead on a made free-throw by junior forward Matt Dietrich (Phoenix, AZ). From here, Redlands never looked back, connecting on nearly every remaining shot to seal the 73-67 victory over Pomona-Pitzer.
Redlands relied on a well-balanced attack with 10 different players scoring at least two points. Dietrich led the team with 16 points, including six in the overtime period. Freshman guard Brian Kuklok (Poway, CA) came up with 12 points, including two three-pointers, to go along with six rebounds. Coffey, Maertens, and junior center Jordan Sanvictores (Redwood City, CA) chipped in eight points apiece.
Pomona-Pitzer gained a game-high 26 points from senior guard David Liss (San Francisco, CA). Senior forward Justin Sexton (Watertown, PA) and senior guard Adam Chaimowitz (San Diego, CA) tossed in 13 points each for the Sagehens.
The Bulldogs shot an impressive 80.0% overall from the free-throw line, knocking down 5-of-6 shots during the overtime period. They also hit 60.0% of their attempts from the field in the final five minutes, compared to Pomona-Pitzer’s 33.3% display.
In addition, Redlands dominated the boards with a 40-to-28 advantage on the night, including three more on the offensive end.
The Bulldogs (12-9, 8-2 SCIAC) host the Poets of Whittier College for Senior Night on Sat., Feb. 13, at 7:30 p.m. The women compete that night as well, tipping off at 5 p.m. in Currier Gym.
Feb 13, 2010
Redlands Men’s Basketball Suffers Loss to Whittier College on Senior Night
The University of Redlands men’s basketball team suffered a bitter defeat against the Poets of Whittier College during Senior Night in Currier Gym, faltering to the Poets by a score of 77-88 in an all-out dog fight between two Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference (SCIAC) teams. Despite rallying back from 17 points down, the Bulldogs’ efforts came up short in the final minutes, which resulted in a tough loss in their final home regular-season game.
The Poets shot lights-out for the first 14 minutes of the game, going 5-for-5 from beyond the arc and over 70% from the field to give them a quick 17–point advantage. However, the Maroon and Gray fought back to actually take a two-point lead at the half.
Nonetheless, Whittier remained steadfast to its fast-paced, long-range shooting, and took control midway through the second period at 66-59.
Redlands responded by eventually cutting the lead to two when junior center Jordan Sanvictores (Redwood City, CA) hit a jumper with 4:17 to go.
But that was as close at the Bulldogs would get, as they struggled to make their shots during the final possessions.
Senior guard Andrew Maertens (Salt Lake City, UT) headlined the Redlands Class of 2010 with 11 points and three rebounds. Freshman guard Tristan Kirk (Redlands, CA) led the Maroon and Gray with 13 points, eight rebounds, and three assists. Junior guard Justin Sobczyk (Palm Desert, CA) added 12 points, while junior forward Matt Dietrich (Phoenix, AZ) chipped in six points, 11 rebounds, and three assists.
Junior guard David Hayashi (Whittier, CA) paced the Poets (10-11, 4-7 SCIAC) with 27 points, including four baskets from long range. Junior forward Drew Menez (Clayton, CA) added 18 and junior forward DaMon Perry (Los Angeles, CA) contributed 12 points.
Despite the loss, Redlands (12-10, 8-3 SCIAC) sits alone in second place in the SCIAC standings. The Bulldogs look to rebound on the road this Wednesday with a conference showdown against Cal Lutheran University.
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Jordan finishes with 8 points in 15 mins of play.
Melrose evens score with 92-78 win over White Station
(7) Melrose 92 (2) White Station 78
"Not this time."
With those words -- and his actions at the free throw line -- Melrose's Chris Jones summed up Saturday night's sweet bit of redemption. He hit 15 of his 34 points in the final quarter, including a 13-of-14 performance at the foul line, as the seventh-ranked Golden Wildcats beat No. 2 White Station, 92-78, before a packed Spartan Palace.
"Every time they made a shot we kept telling ourselves 'Not this time,' " said Jones, who watched the Spartans pull a two-point escape act in his gym 11 days earlier.
"We talked about being wounded earlier this week. (Saturday) we talked about doing everything above average -- because that's what we've got to do the rest of the way," said Melrose coach Jermaine Johnson.
Though his outside shooting touch was shot, a tired Joe Jackson tried to lift the Spartans by himself, scoring 19 of his 34 in the last eight minutes, including his team's last 13 of the contest. Twice, he spurred bursts that cut what had been a 67-47 deficit early in the period to eight.
But, the Golden Wildcats (24-4, 7-4 District 16-AAA) had better balance, and more weapons all over the floor. They hit nine 3-point shots, three each by Jones, Jermaine Holliman and Telvin Wilkerson. Melrose also drove its way to four three-point plays -- and got a four-point play on one of Wilkerson's bombs.
Adonis Thomas dominated inside with 19 points, while Wilkerson and Holliman each had 13.
“We had to kick out when they doubled, and just play defense, especially at the end,” Thomas said. “We wanted three stops when it counted.”
White Station, coming off an emotional one-point win over Central the night before, got 16 points from Andre Hollins, including a pair of early treys. Marvin Williams added 10, but he and the rest of the Spartan big men spent most of the night in foul trouble.
In the third quarter, Melrose forced White Station into seven turnovers, the Spartans scored only nine points, and the Golden Wildcats took a 61-47 lead thanks to an eight-point run by Jones, five of the points coming off turnovers.
“We ran out of gas, simple as that,” White Station coach Jesus Patino said.
The win fueled postseason aspirations for a Melrose squad that figured it had fallen off the radar.
“We had to show people we’re still one of the best teams in the area; get some respect back,” Johnson said.
Patino’s team will play Ridgeway MIAA title Thursday, followed by the start of District 16-AAA tournament play Saturday. He said that makes Tuesday’s regular-season finale with East crucial.
“We need to win that game to clinch top seed … and a bye,” he said.
Melrose (92) -- Jermaine Hollimon 13, Chris Jones 34, Cedrick McAfee 5, Bobby Parks 2, Nate Rucker 6, Adonis Thomas 19, Telvin Wilkerson 13.
White Station (78) -- Julian Burton 3, Harry Green 5, Andre Hollins 15, Joe Jackson 34, Nino Johnson 6, Jordan Miles 4, Marvin Williams 11.
Melrose / 23 / 18 / 20 / 31 / -- / 92 /
White Station / 26 / 12 / 9 / 31 / -- / 78 /
Records -- White Station 19-5 (7-1, 15AAA).
http://www.maxpreps.com/athletes/uVXwSQ3hKEm3BhBQJWAENA/basketball-winter-09-10/stats-bobby-parks-jr.htm
#22 Bobby Parks Jr
Profile Melrose Basketball 09-10
Positions: G
Height:6'4"
Class:Junior
Stats
Stat Name Season Stats
Points Per Game 10.1
Assists Per Game 2.3
Rebounds Per Game 4.6
Steals Per Game 2.1
3pts Field Goals Made 9
Assists 35
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is ray parks injured?
these guys don't have a problem with basketball, why do you?
from prepscoop poster:
Coach Johnson is the most Embarrassing coach in Memphis. He has the most talent Since Hamilton. Last night will be my last time going to a Melrose game. I will go back to to my alum Wooddale. He let Chris jones Ruin this team with all that dribbling and crazy shot selection. Last night fans should have asked for their money back. East did nothing to win this. Melrose gave it to them. At one point I saw a 18 point lead. Then he went into stupid coach mode again. Went totally Half court the entire second half. Constantly keeping the ball in jones hands and walking it up the floor. I left with 3 minutes left in the game it was just that bad. I saw the box score that they only scored 2 points in the 4th. I saw Adonis and Nate's Dad on the front row about to have a heart attack. I talked to someone close to the situation and they said He blamed the loss on everyone but himself. The one thing that stood out is the degrading of bobby parks. I sat behind the Melrose bench about 3 rows up and he called parks over to the bench and was just going off and calling him out with the asst coaches. Looking all crazy with that bozo neck tie he had on. The Kid put his head down and went back on the floor did not even score. Shameful. I thought for a minute it was Robert Newman coaching. They go from ranked in the nation to 4th in 16 - AAA. I don’t like calling coaches out or second guessing them but come on now. U guys can support him all u want but at the end of the night the proof is in the pudding. U have 7 D1 players. Just venting guys because I jumped on this band wagon 2 years ago and thought this would be the next Hamilton. If they don’t get it together quick they will be the laughing stock of Memphis basketball for years to come. Thanks to coach Johnson.
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