http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/new...0312/arti.htmlARG – Manu leaves door open for Argentina
BUENOS AIRES (2010 FIBA World Championship) - Manu Ginobili insists that his Argentina national team days aren’t over but admits he's uncertain as to when he might represent the country again.
With everyone in the South American country wondering if Ginobili will play at the 2010 FIBA World Championship in Turkey should Argentina qualify, the veteran guard said: "It´s early days to think about the national team.
"What happened in Beijing, I still feel it as though it´s fresh in my mind.”
Ginobili had his Olympic campaign last summer cut short by injury.
He got hurt in Argentina's Semi-Final defeat to the United States and had to look on from the bench as Argentina won their bronze-medal game against Lithuania.
"My body is paying the price of many years going to the national team and each time it´s harder," he said.
"If I want to play for many more years, I need to have awareness and be responsible.
"So I will take it year by year."
Ginobili says when it comes to Argentina, he doesn't expect the Spurs to dig in their heels and say he can't play at the 2010 FIBA World Championship.
"I doubt that I will be forced to leave the national team in order to extend my contract (Spurs)," he said.
"They will ask me to be cautious and to think about the franchise.
"They will say again that I already give a lot for the national team but I have the last word.
"In any case with or without pressure from the Spurs, I still don´t know what I will do. When the time comes, I will decide."
Ginobili had praise for Luis Scola, his Argentina teammate who just finished his second season in the league with the Houston Rockets.
"Luis had a strong campaign," Ginobili said to Clarin.
"He gave everything he had in each game, as he has gotten us accustomed to.
"He gave things to the team that don´t appear in the statistics and that they needed for some time. He got lots of rebounds and scored very important points in key games."
When asked if he could envision himself playing with Scola in Houston, Ginobili said: "Well I would rather bring Scola to San Antonio but if at any time the Spurs don´t want me, Houston would be a good place for me."
As for signing a new deal with San Antonio, Ginobili said: "The conversations regarding a contract extension were cancelled when I got injured.
"Probably we will speak next year when they see me healthy and in good form and playing at my level."
Die Liebe wird eine Krankheit, wenn man sie als eine Heilung sieht
Artificial Nature
Right now, it's very difficult guessing what the roster will look like. It's safe to say SG Paolo Quinteros, PF Luis Scola, PG Antonio Porta, C Román González, PF Leo Mainoldi, C Juan Gutiérrez, PF Leo Gutiérrez and SF Federico Kammerichs will be there.
SG Carlos Delfino, PG Pablo Prigioni and SF Andrés Nocioni remain doubtful. I guess they won't be available.
And after that, there is a crew of second-line guys that can join the supporting cast:
-SGs Diego García and Federico Van Lacke could wind up battling for Delfino's place.
-The choices for a possible PG spot would include Juan Pablo Figueroa, Juan Pablo Cantero, Jonatan Treise, Diego Ciorciari, Maximiliano Stanic, Nicolás Gianella...
-If a SF is needed, Matías Sandes will get his chance. Also Juan Manuel Locatelli could get it. I'd love to see Roberto Gabini too.
-The only possible alternate big man I can think of is Diego Romero, who finally had the great season everyone was waiting for.
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Oberto's words, on whether he'll join the NT this season and his arrithmia:
"I've played less this season, so i'm not tired, but it depends on what the doctors tell me this week, on whether i'll have to take medication or rest for some time. I never lost the will to play with the NT, and i've never retired"
Question
Hello Guys !
My name is Mostafa and i am from Lebanon.
I want to ask if someone can provide me infos about the player Jose Yapur ( 196cm , G ,1985) , he was playing with Tucuman BB in 2005 , but now i dont know where he 's playing !! is he a good player ?? and where is he playing now ??
My second question is about Selim SAFAR (190cm G argentine) , is he a good player ??
Thank you Guys !
About José Yapur, I don't know anything about him. That Tucumán BB club disappeared from national pro competitions, so i don't know if he's still there.
About Selem Safar, he's been going up and down between Argentina's top two leagues. His rights belong to Quilmes, a top division club (2007/08 stats here), but he was loaned twice to second division clubs (2008/09 stats here). He is mostly a shooter, he attempts more 3s than 2s, and has good but not great percentages.
Thank you very much alermak !!
do u have any videos about Selem SAFAR ?
And it seems from his name that he's not from Argentine Origin , do u have an idea about his origin ?
and thanks again !
Sergio Hernández words:
"I talked to Chapu (Nocioni) and Fabri (Oberto) and told them that, for one time that the NT can give them (a break), they should take it. They are obviously welcome, but i'd prefer if they don't take risks and be OK for the World Championship."
"We can build a good team without doing anything crazy. It's better for them to have a good season and be OK for Turkey"
"There will be more LNB players than other years. There will be players from abroad leagues, players from LNB and also some little surprise.
"(Delfino's) participation is crucial. He wants to play, but the issue is his shoulder"
"We will put toghether a competitive team, with players than can remain for ten more years"
Coach Hernández will announce the preliminary roster on Friday.
I'm wondering about those "surprises"... Who could he be?¿??
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/new...0390/arti.htmlARG - Scola reaffirms his commitment to play in FIBA Americas Championship
BUENOS AIRES (FIBA Americas Championship Men)- Argentinan center Luis Scola reaffirmed his commitment to represent Argentina in the 2009 FIBA Americas Championship to be played in San Juan, Puerto Rico from August 26 to September 6.
"I want to clarify that I will be in the FIBA Americas Championship," said the player in a press conference at Michelangelo Restaurant of San Telmo.
Scola, who was the MVP of the 2007 FIBA Americas Championship, will be key again in the Argentinian team that also has Carlos Delfino, Pablo Prigioni, Paolo Quinteros, among others.
About some of the losses for the tournament, Scola said: "It doesn't matter who comes, we will have a competitive team, I would like to play with Manu (Ginóbili), Chapu (Nocioni), Fabri (Oberto), and Puma (Montecchia). There will be others like Leo Mainoldi, Matías Sandes, Paolo Quinteros, Carlos Delfino and they will have their opportunity and we will prepare to play at a high level. They are competitive players. The result will depend on the preparation and the quality of players that we have."
When he was asked if he had problems with the Rockets to play for the national team, he said: "They asked me if I had to play for the national team. I said yes and didn't make an issue out of it. I explained that I liked to play for my country and it is not helpful to be out for five months. They understand."
Die Liebe wird eine Krankheit, wenn man sie als eine Heilung sieht
Artificial Nature
PG:
Pablo Prigioni (Tau Cerámica, Spain)
Juan Pablo Figueroa (Atenas, Argentina)
Juan Pablo Cantero (Sionista, Argentina)
Juan Manuel Fernández (Temple, NCAA)
SG:
Carlos Delfino (Khimki, Russia)
Paolo Quinteros (CAI Zaragoza, Spain)
Diego García (Burgos, Spain LEB)
Matías Nocedal (Básquet Vic, España)
SF:
Sebastián Vega (Peñarol, Argentina)
Matías Sandes (Fuenlabrada, Spain)
Axel Weigand (Alicante, Spain LEB)
Federico Kammerichs (Regatas, Argentina)
PF:
Luis Scola (Houston Rockets, NBA)
Leonardo Gutiérrez (Atenas, Argentina)
Leonardo Mainoldi (Fuenlabrada, Spain)
Andrés Pelussi (Libertad, Argentina)
Fabricio Vay (Arkadia, Austria)
C:
Román González (Peñarol, Argentina)
Juan Pedro Gutiérrez (Granada, Spain)
Federico Aguerre (Argentino, Argentina 2nd dividision)
Well... there are some surprises indeed.
1) many kids: Fernández, Nocedal and Vega were kind of expected, but Aguerre was definitely a longshot. I guess they won't be more than sparrings, or 12th men at best.
2) Axel Weigand and Fabricio Vay are the true surprises of this list. A couple big SF that once were future stars and eventually forgot about them, espiecially Vay after his very particular career. Hernández truly thinks they're up to the task? or simple wants to check them out?
3) also, i thought Antonio Porta had his spot pretty much secure.
Hehe I almost beat you..., I was about to post the same list.
I really like Vay... and he is still only 22 years old, I definitely thought that Porta was going to be in the list and also I'm very surprised that Federico Van Lacke isn't in the list.Originally Posted by alermac
Overall I like it, there are a lot of young players and among them I specially like Cantero, Figueroa and Vay.
will fernandez & nocedal be available for the U19 WC in New Zealand if they are with the senior NT? The U19 starts on July 6 and the ToA is not til August 26.
They will play in New Zealand, then join the preparations for ToA.
I hate to be a "wet blanket," but I'm not impressed with Argentina's potential line-ups. Maybe these young players are really good, but Argentina will miss their veterans, which was a great advantage to them. They will have fantastic depth at SG and PF, but the other positions are lacking. Prigioni can handle the point, but who is after him? Kammerichs can play SF, but who is after him? JP Gutiérrez is more of a PF, so who will play center? Scola can.
Argentina does not need Ginobili to win. They'll miss him, but they'll also miss Nocioni, Oberto, and Pepe Sanchez (again). I doubt the young replacements are ready to be as good as those veterans.
Long story short: I don't like the depth of this team.
"I really like the attitudes of eagles. They never give up. When they grab a fish or something else, they never let it go. It doesn't matter. In a book, they write they find a skeleton of [an] eagle and there is no fish. It means that the fish beat him and killed him, but he didn't let go." -- Donatas Motiejunas
The advantage Argentina has over probably anyone else in the Americas is they have the safety net of the wild card. If this youth experiment went wrong and somehow they didn't finish in the top 4, can anyone honestly say they wouldn't get a wild card from FIBA? Not a chance.
The Rules learned in the Prediction game.
1: Brazil is always disappointing
2: Never dismiss Argentina solely because of age.
3: Never bet against Spain in a knockout game, unless it is against the US.
You're not being a wet blanket. I think that is the secretly general consensus about the team and most of the young ones; It'll be hard to imagine this roster failing to finish 4th and qualify, but i guess the guaranteed wildcard allows Hernández to experiment and see some kids for a potential rebuilding.
Yeah but that's nothing to feel proud of
I mean, ya think that's fair ?
Puerto Rico and Agenrtina shouln't get wild cards everytime get don't qualify to a certain tourney. That way they would actualy take it seriously and at least send decent teams to this type of competicions.
with PR forming one of the best teams in its history, Venezula's best talent from Europe and Greivis Vásquez, and The Domianican's 4 NBA players plus two who play in Europe with NBA experice as well, adn Brazil's Full team for the first time in a long time, Argentina will be more than lucky if they manage to get close to a 6th place.
Last edited by Lewis; 06-08-2009 at 11:52 PM.
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I think you guys are really underestimating this players, Among those 20 players there is enough to win this tournament, its even better that the team that finished second the last TOA loosing in finals against USA which won't participate this year and its pretty close to the team that defeated Lithuania in bronce medal game at the last Olympics.
PD: I don't remember Argentina getting any wildcard in previous tournaments
That's cause they always qualified either through being Olympic champs, or through the Americas.
As for the Wild card system, while I don't especially like it. It might as well go to the teams with the best recent history, and proven skills on the world stage. That said I think it's extremely doubtful that Argentina finishes lower than 4th.
The Rules learned in the Prediction game.
1: Brazil is always disappointing
2: Never dismiss Argentina solely because of age.
3: Never bet against Spain in a knockout game, unless it is against the US.
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