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    China Women NT trainning roster:
    PG:
    Song Xiaoyun 175cm
    Yang Banban 170cm
    Chen Xiaojia 177cm
    SG:
    Bian Lan 180cm
    Zhang Wei 184cm
    Ji Yanyan 182cm
    SF:
    Sui Feifei 184cm
    Ma Zenyu 183cm
    Gao Song 190cm
    PF:
    Chen Xiaoli 190cm
    Zhang Fan 188cm
    Liu Jiacen 190cm
    Guan Xing 190cm
    C:
    Liu Dan :190cm
    Zhang Xiaoni 193cm
    Huang Hongping 195cm

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    SG Miao Lijie 180cm dan C Chen Nan 196cm will play in WNBA thay will not play in NT 2009.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FEIFEI View Post
    SG Miao Lijie 180cm dan C Chen Nan 196cm will play in WNBA thay will not play in NT 2009.
    What team will Chen Nan play for in the WNBA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheShot View Post
    What team will Chen Nan play for in the WNBA?
    Sorry I don't konw now.

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    I know that Miao Li Jie signed a training camp contract with the Sacramento Monarchs on January 14 but for Chen Nan there isn't any information posted about her in the WNBA website yet.

    http://www.wnba.com/transactions/WNBA_2009.html

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    Chen Nan will play for Chicago Sky, at least for preseason.
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    Miao's rp is poor,dislike her

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    Chen Nan played well in her first preseason game in the WNBA. 11 min 9 pts

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    Default China NT blown out by WNBA team

    http://www.wnba.com/games/20110519/C...#nbaGIboxscore

    Connecticut cleared its bench (including "practice" players) and still slaughtered the Chinese team. 46-20 rebounding edge

    This Chinese team is very young and missing all 5 starters from last year's Asian Games. Out of the 12 players in the US, none was on the 2008 Olympic team and only 3 were subs at the 2010 World Championship. The rest were rookies including Gao Song who's eligible for the U19 Games this year. That said, I wonder if there's anything to be done to address the rebounding situation. China actually has a couple of really tall girls (Wei Wei 206cm/6'9'', Huang Hongpin 196cm/6'5'', both listed 1989 and had been on the NT before) but couldn't get any rebounds. Wei Wei can shoot the jumpers, but is skinny, unathletic and softer than cotton. Huang is big and somewhat athletic but seems to be a step slower at everything. Both of them need to get boxing lessons because this is a waste of talent.

    The good news is the prettiest girl in Chinese Basketball (Zhao Shuang) looks like a lock for the NT in the future. Needs to put on some weight and we'll have the next Sui Feifei (the previous "pretty NT star" who was also a skinny small forward.)
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    Nice photo, pretty girl.

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    Default China NT. vs WNBA history

    *- scrimmage, which is a fancy name for a game in practice facilities

    2011 (11 players):
    PG-Yang Banban, Chen Xiaojia
    SG-Zhao Shuang, Ji Yanyan
    SF-Ding Yuan, Ji Xiao
    PF-Xu Nuo, Gao Song, Lu Wen
    C-Huang Hongpin, Wei Wei

    5/19 L 63-101 Connecticut Sun (Ding Yuan 17, Zhao Shuang/Gao Song 12)
    5/21 L 67-72 Washington Mystics* (Zhao Shuang 15)
    5/23 L 45-84 Chicago Sky (Ji Yanyan 17)
    5/27 L 65-79 New York Liberty

    2010 (13 players):
    PG-Yang Banban, Chen Xiaojia, Shi Xiufeng
    SG-Ma Zengyu, Zhang Wei, Ji Yanyan
    SF-Zhang Fan, Song Liwei, Ding Yuan
    PF-Guan Xin, Gao Song
    C-Huang Hongpin, Wei Wei

    4/29 W 71-70 Seattle Storm*
    5/01 L 58-78 Los Angeles Sparks (Ma Zengyu 14, Song Liwei 13)
    5/04 L 57-91 San Antonio Silver Stars
    5/08 L 78-106 Phoenix Mercury (Ma Zengyu 17, Song Liwei 14)
    5/12 L 56-79 Minnesota Lynx* (Song Liwei 14)

    2009 -no games
    2008 -no games
    2007 -no games
    2006 -no games

    2005
    5/03 L 54-81 Seattle Storm* (Song Liwei 19, Liu Dan 10)
    5/06 L 79-103 Sacramento Monarchs (Miao Lijie and Sui Feifei had 16 and 7 for Sacramento; Ji Xiao and Zhang Xiaoni had 22 and 13 for China)
    5/14 L 84-117 San Antonio Silver Stars* (Chen Nan 20, Zhang Xiaoni 19)

    2004
    5/06 L 73-117 Seattle Storm*
    5/08 W 87-85OT Connecticut Sun (Miao Lijie 25)
    5/17 L 69-80 Detroit Shock (Miao Lijie 16, Chen Nan 15)
    5/18 L 50-86 Charlotte Sting (Ye Li 15)

    2003 (at least 4 games were scheduled but canceled due to American fear of SARS outbreak)

    2002 (Unable to find scores. Calling @Kings)
    5/?? Seattle Storm*
    5/11 Utah Starzz
    5/15 Portland Fire


    Basically only 2 wins. The win against eventual champion Seattle Storm last year was great but then one realizes Seattle only had rookies/practice players as most Storm players were either still in Europe or still vacationing. Also it was a scrimmage. I think the Chinese scrimmaged against them again later that month and got destroyed by 30 pts in 6 quarters.

    The only other win was in 2004 against a new franchise Connecticut Sun. I think that was the Olympic year and China did have all its best players. They got slaughtered in most of the other games though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinobball View Post

    2002 (Unable to find scores. Calling @Kings)
    5/?? Seattle Storm*
    5/11 Utah Starzz
    5/15 Portland Fire
    Utah 90 China 89--Margo Dydek, Jennifer Azzi, and Adrienne Goodson didn't play for Utah. Game was played at their practice facility.
    Portland 99 China 72

    Couldn't find anything about a Seattle game.
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    Default 4-nation tourney

    Day1:

    China 77-70 New Zealand
    CHN: Zhao Shuang 18p 8r, Ma Zengyu 16, Gao Song / Wei Wei 10
    NZL: Jillian Harmon 19, Micaela Cocks 14, Lisa Wallbutton 14, Natalie Purcell-Taylor 10p 7r

    Australia "B" 57-67 Brazil "B"
    AUS: ???
    BRA: Clarissa dos Santos 18p 13r, Bethania Vasconcelos 11
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    Abby Bishop was the only Aussie player scoring in double digits, actually she had a double-double, 16pts and 10 reb.
    http://www.basketball.net.au/index.p...ash=b96eab469e

    Brazilian win was a bit surprising, as Australia is anyway packed with some excellent veteran players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlo View Post
    Brazilian win was a bit surprising, as Australia is anyway packed with some excellent veteran players.
    China beat both of them to win the first leg.

    Day 2:
    China 71-53 Brazil
    CHN: Zhao Shuang 17p 9r, Xu Nuo 15, Gao Song 12
    BRA: Gilmara Justino 11, Franciele Nascimento 10

    Australia 79-74 New Zealand
    AUS: Abby Bishop 21, Rachael Flanagan 13, Elyse Penaluna 13
    NZL: Jillian Harmon 21, Lisa Wallbutton 16, Micaela Cocks 11, Antonia Edmondson 11, Natalie Taylor 11

    Day 3:
    China 80-72 Australia
    CHN: Ding Yuan 14, Ma Zengyu 12, Ji Yanyan 10
    AUS:

    New Zealand 62-73 Brazil
    NZL: Lisa Wallbutton 16
    BRA: Clarissa dos Santos 23p 8r, Palmira Marcal 13


    All the China NT games are available in HQ here:
    http://bugu.cntv.cn/sports/informati...ge/index.shtml
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    In Day 3 loss to China, Aussies leading scorers were Abby Bishop 16, Elyse Penaluna 13 and Steph Cumming with 11.

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    Default 2nd leg of 4-nation tournament

    Day 4:

    Australia 76-70 Brazil
    AUS: Elyse Penaluna 28, Abby Bishop 12, Hanna Zavecz 11
    BRA: Silvia Gustavo Rocha 16, Nadia Colhado 14

    New Zealand 83-82 China
    NZL: Jililan Harmon 18, Lisa Wallbutton 17, Kate McMeeken-Ruscoe 15, Natalie Taylor 12, Antonia Edmondson 12
    CHN: Zhao Shuang 13, Gao Song 13, Xu Nuo 12, Ji Yanyan 10, Chen Nan 10

    Notice the 3 bolded Chinese players. Gao Song is the youngest player in the team (listed 1992), while Zhao Shuang and Xu Nuo are the only 2 first-time selections to the NT, and these 3 are leading the team in scoring (and doing well in other recent games). Zhao Shuang, being good-looking and all, is dominating Chinese Internet talk these days after top-scoring for China in 3 out of the last 4 games. "Walking Skeleton" Xu Nuo (whom cross0ver112 met again in New York ) also looks like a stud if she can just gain a little mass. At 196cm she weighs the same as her 170cm teammate Yang Banban.


    Day 5:

    Australia 82-53 New Zealand
    NZL: Jillian Harmon 17, Kate McMeeken-Ruscoe 13
    AUS: Kayla Francis 14, Elyse Penuluna 14

    China 99-79 Brazil
    BRA: Clarissa dos Santos 19, Silvia Gustavo Rocha 15, Franciele Nascimento 10
    CHN: Zhao Shuang 23p 7a, Wei Wei 19, Ji Yanyan 17, Xu Nuo 15, Chen Nan 10

    Zhao Shuang is for real, big star in the making. Scoring, rebounding, assists and steals, this girl just racks up the stat sheet game after game despite her slender frame. After watching her play in WCBA I predicted she'd stick with the NT if only for her relentless energy, but I did not expect her to rise so fast in her first NT experience. Twenty-one years old (officially), Zhao Shuang played in WCBA for 3 years but had never made the All-Star ballot, but I believe she'll lead the All-Star votes next season. A pretty girl with a pretty game is always a marketing dream for women's sports, China or anywhere.

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    Los Angeles Sparks 98, Chinese National Team 71

    Center, Chen Nan did not play. Wei Wei paced the team with her overall game of 8 points, 10 rebounds and 5 assists.
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    cross0ver112 I find you, this must be you, ha!





    Anyway, the team doesn't look like it will do well in the Olympics. I think they'll finish better than the men's counterpart, but still hard to get too excited.

    Chinese men's basketball at least has decent young prospects, and the professional league is flourishing, while Chinese women's basketball is dying. Girls in China don't want to play basketball. The tall athletic ones who want to become athletes choose volleyball as this sport has about 50X more exposure on Chinese TV and media. But most don't want to become athletes, as they can earn a ton more doing something else in China's booming economy. Every off-season, some girls retire to become cooks, waitresses, security guards, elementary school teachers and so on. Those that have the looks become flight attendants and models. Most of the best prospects use basketball as a vehicle to graduate from college and become white collar workers.

    Now I understand China already has the luxury of having "professional women's basketball athletes", something nonexistent in most countries. However when we compare the status with South Korea, the average salary of WCBA players is less than 1/2 of WKBL while standards of living in Chinese cities is not significantly less than in Korean cities. I was reading journalist Robin Chu's blog on the recent Nike All Asia Camp where they had a girl's camp and the best 3 performers don't want to pursue professional basketball. The most painful thing is Japan looks like it's investing a lot in women's basketball (they've been sending a lot of young girls to Nike All Asia Camp) and has more or less outperformed China in junior competitions in recent years.

    I've talked to most members of Chinese women's NT online and I know most of them have at least 1 basketball parent, otherwise I would have imagined that their parents wouldn't support it. I really like the girls and find them a group of polite, friendly, dedicated and fun-loving girls, but I am also aware of the limits of what they can accomplish. Women's sport will only survive when there is international success (e.g. Chinese women's volleyball) and when there isn't, it's goes downhill from there. And I think this is the inevitable of Chinese women's basketball.
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