Silent preparation. Like playing somwhere in Europe or US where no one can scout us or stuff? If it means something like that, then it's definitely the best option... no debate about that.Originally Posted by reamily
pare some people also say that silent preparation is the best preparation
But the thing is, we can't be too picky at this point. We're actually cramming to get as many REAL intn'l games as possible for them. Count how many games they've had on their resume. Less than 5 eh? Never mind they're games with those 2 teams that didn't exhibit the international brand of play. This PBA NT should grab every chance offered 'cause as far as they go, they aren't solid AS A TEAM yet, not even by 50%. So no reason to be maarte. Not to mention they can't even arrange any games with our ideal opponents, in other words, this "silent preparation" you're prolly talking about.
I'd rather other teams write notes about us at SEABA than our team just start to feel up the intn'l game in Jones Cup. Both sounds wrong but the latter for me is worse.
still, it would've been a blast if CJ Giles made it as a guest player.
CJ GIles Kelly Williams Cyrus Baguio
Asi Taulava Sonny Thoss Ryan Reyes
Japeth Aguilar Kerby Raymundo Jared Dilinger
Mick Pennisi Gabe Norwood James Yap
reserves: Arwind Santos, Willie Miller, JJ Helterbrand
it really maybe wrong but I do not believe also that RP team staff do not do their homework really well
That would be an awful team. There's no legitimate PG. Gabe Norwood can play PG but he usually plays F while Ryan Reyes always play SG in Sta. Lucia.
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Draw crucial factor in RP 5 drive
SBP executive director Noli Eala said yesterday the draw for the 25th FIBA-Asia Championships in Tianjin, China, will be held on June 17 and hoped the country's luck will change after landing in two straight "Groups of Death" in recent tournaments.
The Philippines will try to book one of two tickets reserved for Southeast Asia in the SEABA qualifiers in Medan, Indonesia, on June 6-10. If coach Yeng Guiao's Powerade team winds up first or second, it will advance to play in the FIBA-Asia joust on Aug. 6-16 with the top three finishers gaining slots in the World Championships in Turkey next year.
The venue for the draw is still undecided but it may be held in Komaki, Japan, where the East Asian qualifiers are scheduled on June 10-14. Expected to play in the tournament are China, South Korea, Chinese-Taipei, Mongolia, Hong Kong and host Japan.
In Tokushima two years ago, the Philippines was in the so-called "Group of Death" with eventual champion Iran, defending titlist China and Jordan. The national team beat China, 79-74, but lost to Iran, 75-69, and Jordan, 84-76, and eventually placed ninth despite winning its last four games over Syria, 107-100, in overtime, India, 104-89, Kuwait, 89-58, and China in a rematch, 78-76.
In Jakarta a few weeks ago, the Philippines was bracketed with Iran, Lebanon, Korea and Kuwait. A defeat to Qatar in the quarterfinals eliminated the Philippines from advancing to the semis.
"It was tough playing Iran and Lebanon at the start," said Eala. "Iran later won the title and Lebanon beat Qatar for third place. Against Qatar, we were down by 10 with 5 1/2 minutes left, down by three with two minutes to go and down by one with about 1 1/2 minutes remaining. We had a chance to take the lead but we lost possession on a bad pass. Qatar missed two shots but they kept getting the offensive rebound until finally, they hit a three-pointer. The lead shot up to four and we took a bad panic shot in return. That did it for us. Still, we learned a lot in the tournament. We definitely got better. I think we're on the right track. We finished second in our group and made it to the quarterfinals. If we made it to the semis, we would've been very, very happy and if we made it to the finals, it would've been a bonus."
Eala, who leaves for Tokyo tomorrow for the Smart Gilas' four-game exhibition series with the Japanese national team, will meet PBA commissioner Sonny Barrios and special assistant to the commissioner Willie Marcial to discuss the SEABA tournament after he returns this Sunday.
"We have video, scouting reports and player profiles for our Powerade Philippine team coaching staff," said Eala in a text to Barrios yesterday. "Hopefully, it will help for FIBA-Asia in August. Let's meet either June 1 or 2 so we can include Japan in our discussions. I know you'll demolish SEABA. I will be in Medan for one or two days just to make sure all is OK with FIBA and our team."
The PBA Board of Governors plans a special meeting in Medan during the SEABA Championships as the league throws its full support behind the national team's drive for Tianjin.
So far, eight countries have qualified for the 16-nation FIBA-Asia Championships -- host China for East Asia, Kuwait and Qatar for the Gulf, Kazakhstan and India for Middle Asia and Jordan, Iran and Lebanon for West Asia. Still up for grabs are two slots in East Asia, two slots in the Gulf, two slots in Middle Asia and two slots in Southeast Asia.
The three countries vying for two available slots in East Asia are Japan, Chinese-Taipei and South Korea. Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates are tipped to make it in the Gulf while Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan and Kyrgyzstan will battle for two slots in Middle Asia. The Philippines, Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia and Laos will play for two slots in Southeast Asia.
Coach Rajko Toroman's Smart Gilas squad will see action as a guest team in the next PBA Philippine Cup but the results will not be counted in the standings.
"We're following what the PBA did in the '80s when the national team, with coach Derick Pumaren, was first brought in to play no-bearing games but in the next conference, with coach Ron Jacobs, the national team's results were counted and they even won the championship in 1985," said Marcial.
The Powerade squad will play in the Jones Cup this July after the SEABA Championships and before the FIBA-Asia tournament. Joaquin Henson - The Philippine Star
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that's short of saying the powerade roster sucks. i based my roster in the current 15 man roster of PBA NT with the exclusion of ranidel. jj helterbrand, willie miller, these guys arent natural pgs either that's why i put them in reserve. but that's just my humble opinion, sir.
willie miller isnt a real PG but JJ is a true PG. he always play pg during international competition and in the BGK team. I agree with you in reserving arwind, ranidel and miller.its also just my opinion
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I think Philipina will win this tournament easily.
With your powerade national team, it one or two level above other countries in south east asia.
Indonesia will not send their national team.
Indonesia send GARUDA team. Garuda is runner up of Indonesian league 2008.
Really?... or are you just saying that so that we'll underestimate your country and then you guys make some upsets at the end...
Garuda Pulls Double Duty In League, Regional Event
In addition to fighting for its first Indonesian Basketball League title, Garuda Flexi Bandung will represent Indonesia at the Southeast Asian Basketball Association (Seaba) Championship in Medan, North Sumatra, from June 6-10.
Indonesian Basketball Association (Perbasi) official Azwar Zulkarnaen said Garuda was chosen because of its 2008 IBL Tournament championship.
“This should be a national team event, but we only have a very short time to prepare the team,” Azwar said on Monday. “We have to select the team which is ready to play in the event. Satria Muda just played in the FIBA Asia Champions Cup, so after a meeting, we picked Garuda.”
He said Perbasi had asked Seaba to postpone the event because the association was not ready to organize the championship, but Seaba instead spoke directly to Perbasi North Sumatra, which said it could organize the tournament on its own.
Garuda is slated to play as Indonesia in the championship and will face three Southeast Asian teams — Malaysia, Singapore and the Philippines.
While Garuda has a number of national players on its roster, including Denny Sumargo, Mario Wuysang and Kelly Purwanto, the club will bolster its chances with players from fellow IBL teams.
Garuda manager Simon Pasaribu said his team would borrow players from XL Aspac Jakarta and Pelita Jaya Esia for the Seaba tournament.
“M. Isman Thoyib of Aspac and Andi Poedjakesuma will join us for the event, and their clubs have given permission,” Simon said. “We dropped our plan to borrow two Satria Muda Britama players.”
Garuda initially asked archrival Satria Muda to loan out Ronny Gunawan and Christian Ronaldo Sitepu. Ronny was too exhausted after playing for his club in the FIBA Asia Champions Cup, Simon said, and Christian had to focus on his college studies.
The Seaba Championship will take place between the IBL’s fifth series, May 28-June 2 in Surabaya, and the sixth series, June 12-16 in Bandung.
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I'm surprised Indonesia, having a league and being the hosts and all did not even prepare a real national team for the event but rather just a pro team.
Maybe Hoops being out of the sea games has something to do with it.
do you guys have any information on Malaysia and Thailand NT???
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For me honestly even Indonesia did not send their real national team do you think guys that indonesia send a better if not the best team possible with some key additions like bigmen or another theory is if they select a selection team sure they can qualify but they will not allowed themselves to be beaten Black And Blue and White by RP team in their own turf
Well, Indonesia is not like Philipina. In Philipina, you can have 2 national team (smart gilas & powerade team) which have the same high quality, speed & experience. So, Philipina can easy to adjust, which tournament for smart gilas, and which tournament for powerade.
In Indonesia, we have limited players for international competition. If you see, every international tournament we almost send the same players for national team. And i think some of the players are very very tired now, since they must join many tournaments from january 2009.
At least let them take a rest for a month ...
ooh that's why, the pool isnt too deep. Thanks for the info. I'm just surprised because Isnt fiba asia supposed to be the most important tournament for any team in asia?
Actually powerade only played 5 games since they were formed last year. The games werent convincing enough Powerade is for 2009 Fiba asia and Smart is for 2011 fiba asia.
Hamstring injury sidelines Helterbrand in next week’s SEABA
05/26/2009 | 08:39 PM
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MANILA, Philippines – Add Jayjay Helterbrand’s name in Powerade Team Pilipinas’ disabled lists.
Helterbrand will be joining Powerade Team Pilipinas teammates Sonny Thoss and Kelly Williams at the sidelines and become cheerleaders for the PBA-backed national squad in next week’s Southeast Asian Basketball Association (SEABA) men’s championship in Medan, Indonesia.
The high-scoring Ginebra guard suffered a pulled hamstring he endured in the Gin Kings’ playoff match against Rain or Shine Sunday for the second outright semifinals berth of the Motolite-PBA Fiesta Cup.
The injury expects to sideline Helterbrand for 10 days as doctors advised him to rest his hamstring.
Thoss (knee) and Williams (blood disorder) are the other players in the reserve list of the Powerade Team Pilipinas.
Team Pilipinas coach Yeng Guiao shrugged off Helterbrand’s situation saying that the incident is just “a minor injury".
“We just learned about it (Monday) shortly after JayJay have undergone an MRI test. It’s bad news for us, although Willie (Miller) and Ryan (Reyes) are still there to take care of our backcourt," said Guiao during the weekly PSA Forum at Shakey’s U.N. Avenue.
Helterbrand was included in Guiao’s final 12-man Team Pilipinas roster suiting up for the PBA-backed RP squad for the June 6 to 10 SEABA that serves as the qualifying tournament for the FIBA-Asia men’s championship in Taijian, China in August.
Guiao said the coaching staff could have inserted Thoss in the lineup but as per SEABA rule, the final line-up can no longer be altered once it had been submitted. “We would have wanted to insert Sonny in the lineup when we learned about JayJay’s injury, pero kung ano raw ‘yung na-submit, basically, that’s it."
Despite getting hurt, Guiao said the 6-foot-1 Helterbrand, Mark Caguioa’s partner in Ginebra’s dreaded backcourt tandem, will still travel with the team in Indonesia. The nationals leave for Medan on June 4. “We’ll take him (Helterbrand) to Indonesia and see the situation on a day-to-day basis."
Although highly-favored to top the competition, the RP coach said he’s not taking lightly a tournament long been dominated by the Filipinos.
“I don’t want to be overconfident and say na tapos na ito," he pointed out. “I don’t want players to just play games because they are physically superior and more talented. Ang gusto ko manalo kami because we are using a system and not just try to overpower them."
Guiao was later informed that like Laos, Thailand has also backed out of the meet, leaving the country competing with the host, Malaysia and Singapore for the two slots available for the FIBA-Asia meet. – GMANews.TV
I think it is not impossible that Malaysia and Singapore will backout therefore if that happens no more game for the rp team
Why have Laos and Thailand pulled out?
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Laos backed out because they were criticized for not allowing basketball in the upcoming South East Asian Games this year...
Thailand, on the other hand, are just being realistic, they know they will loss to the Philippines.. so why bother...
According to me... they heard baldy said that the Powerade RP Team will waste everyone in SEABA by 40-50 points and they got scared
maybe because they think they have no chance.
Actually, the sea games 2009 has canceled basketball as one of the sports. Most SEA Countries just use seaba and fiba asia as a preparation for the sea games since they have no chance of winning them.
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